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"Exploring Paganism - Finding Balance" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-29 14:23:03

This balance is not an unmoving or stagnant thing but rather like a wave with a peak and trough the end result is balance. The hide’s toughen are another example of this dynamic balance. This concept of dynamic balance is what steered me to Druidry instead of some of the other Pagan religions (such as Wicca) many of which have prohibitions or at the very least admonishments not to do harm unless as a measure apply. For my path doing “injure” is as necessary to being balanced as doing “good”. The trick is to learn and gain the wisdom of when and where harm is needed. Balance is a fascinating topic whether in spirituality or life and work. The word (and the image of the scale) seems to indicate that there are two things we must balance–good v evil harm v good fat v fast etc. Duality however is a problem on its own. It leads quickly to “them” v. “us” a dangerous displace in spirituality. I evaluate. Once we begin to reason the world into two classes. “those who think like I do,” and “those who don’t,” we run into trouble. Duality sets up the idea of right v wrong and quickly leads to taking sides and shoring them up and all of a sudden we aren’t in balance we are at odds. Or worse at war. We know people who start out evenly but then act to seeing the world in color and white–in duality. But most of us live our lives in shades of color–we do things alter we fail we help others we are selfish. We are built for balance. We have two hands two arms two legs two ears. We build a lot of our idiomatic speech on ‘either this or that’ analogies. But there is so much more to hold so much more to consider. I see balance as which has been mentioned earlier as something which is dynamic it is always shifting and always moving. However this shifting and moving is not in ways we may think and are actually echos of deeper aspects of ourselves at work. Psychology calls them Archetypes those of a more literary bent call them metaphors and spiritual circles often call it symbolism. Whatever the label fit is something akin to karma but different as well. For instance using the idea of walking a razor’s edge balance ordain probbably include at one point having the razor cut into our paths/ideas to open them up or let out the toxins. It may briefly divide you which is what you may need at the time. AND it may not be a painless process. When we began to desire balance in our life we automaticlly bid to the possiblitiy of chaos happening or our ideas being broken change state and exposed. It’s not that it is appropriate for us to do harm in some instances but rather a consequence of us being a whole person. No be who we are we will do injure at points in our life. To a certain extent we undergo choice over this-on how to maifest it but we can only hold out so desire and then we blow it. So in a sense part of balance is minimizing the harm inevitably we will create. We hit the books from it heal what we can and move on down the tightrope or sword’s edge. A big part of this is tension for there is always tension in nature. When a seed/flower sprouts there is tension (pulling and pushing) when we interact with people-there is a period of awkwardness and then comfort but we all know relationships are not easy to maintain all the time. Without tension we ordain die as human beings. If we were to loose the follow parts of ourselves we would loose the material for fertilising our psyche to grow. I love this discussion on balance. I am not Pagan but have studied many different religions. The concept of fit runs through most world religions– Buddhism. Taoism and Hinduism. I feel it’s extremely important to live in the balanced “gray areas” as someone said above than to lean too far to the white or black. It’s hard for me to step outside Christianity to look at it objectively since I was raised in it. This is my culture and mostlly I had positive experiences as a child but I recognize there are gaps in religion. So I will add my two-cents. I believe we are each created with our own internal spiritual “balance” that is unique and precious to us. A spiritual balance has nothing to do with the religion one follows. The religion helps one to connect spiritually. But we can actually connect without a religion because religion is only secondary to spirituality. It’s just a tool to back up us connect. You may find spiritual balance as a Pagan others may find fit practicing Yoga. comfort others find spiritual balance climbing mountains or making music. When we be in balance we can respect all for who they are and how they cerebrate spiritually or if they choose not to connect at all. Those who be in the black and white seem to have difficulties accepting differences in others. This is because they are unbalanced and feel threatened by their precarious positions. When you are balanced you don’t feel threatened by other points of view other religions other ways of life other cultures. ballance to me means just the right amounts no giving worship to just one male deity or one feamale deity also the ballance of ideals as i am pagan but i am allso wiccan trad and i also practice budisim i take what works for me from all three and ballance it out in a way that gives recognition to all three forms of worship it might not bring home the bacon for every one but its what works for me I am especially pleased to see that even those who do not practice a Pagan Path comfort felt comfortable with expressing their own views… this is what the Crossroads is all about - being a safe displace where EVERYONE can feel safe in sharing their thoughts regardless of your own spirituality. We may not always agree with one another but we can comfort come together and learn from each other. You undergo all made some good thought-provoking comments that I have enjoyed reading and I hope others have enjoyed them as well. In the DC area a lot of people tend to forget about the last item and I think that’s why the work/life balance is so skewed. If you’re not comfortable with your own affiliate then you won’t be comfortable period. Balance is not Spirituality. Balance is not found through religion and religion is not Spirituality. Balance is not,knowing how long to work or how many walks in the woods one needs to ‘feel’ fit. fit is what occurs once we are able to cerebrate with our inner self admit to all our weaknesses face our fears evaluate them learn to understand the mechanisms of the two in order to relinquish what does not belng to our Spirit. To love and hate equally each aspect of our rational and irrational sides (right vs do by good vs not good love vs fear etc..) and yet know how to nourish and care for the wounds that we self inflict in request to bring serenity to our existance through these oponents. Acceptance is the first step to total freedom. Freedom from judgement freedom from all fears freedom from the binds that hold us in captivity in our own existence. Balance is serenity from within for all that is and acceptance of all that which we are. Balance is the quieting of the mind and the magnificent expression of the Spirit. This sculpture shows the sign for "connect".. and that is what Deaf Pagan Crossroads is all about - making connections. Connections between Deafhood and Paganism connections between the Deaf Community and the Hearing Community connections between myself as the writer and you as the reader. I hope you will take the time to read my various posts some of which are listed below. Welcome to the Crossroads and I wish you make some connections here!

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"Exploring Paganism - Finding Balance" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-29 14:23:02

This fit is not an unmoving or stagnant thing but rather like a gesticulate with a peak and trough the end result is balance. The earth’s toughen are another example of this dynamic balance. This concept of dynamic balance is what steered me to Druidry instead of some of the other Pagan religions (such as Wicca) many of which have prohibitions or at the very least admonishments not to do harm unless as a measure resort. For my path doing “injure” is as necessary to being balanced as doing “good”. The trick is to learn and gain the wisdom of when and where harm is needed. Balance is a fascinating topic whether in spirituality or life and work. The word (and the image of the measure) seems to indicate that there are two things we must balance–good v evil harm v good fat v diet etc. Duality however is a problem on its own. It leads quickly to “them” v. “us” a dangerous place in spirituality. I think. Once we begin to categorize the world into two classes. “those who think like I do,” and “those who don’t,” we run into trouble. Duality sets up the idea of right v wrong and quickly leads to taking sides and shoring them up and all of a sudden we aren’t in balance we are at odds. Or worse at war. We know populate who start out evenly but then move to seeing the world in black and white–in duality. But most of us live our lives in shades of gray–we do things right we fail we help others we are selfish. We are built for balance. We have two hands two arms two legs two ears. We build a lot of our idiomatic speech on ‘either this or that’ analogies. But there is so much more to hold so much more to consider. I see fit as which has been mentioned earlier as something which is dynamic it is always shifting and always moving. However this shifting and moving is not in ways we may think and are actually echos of deeper aspects of ourselves at work. Psychology calls them Archetypes those of a more literary bent call them metaphors and spiritual circles often call it symbolism. Whatever the name balance is something akin to karma but different as well. For instance using the idea of walking a razor’s advance fit will probbably include at one inform having the razor cut into our paths/ideas to open them up or let out the toxins. It may briefly divide you which is what you may need at the time. AND it may not be a painless process. When we began to seek balance in our life we automaticlly subscribe to the possiblitiy of chaos happening or our ideas being broken open and exposed. It’s not that it is appropriate for us to do injure in some instances but rather a consequence of us being a whole person. No be who we are we will do harm at points in our life. To a certain extent we have choice over this-on how to maifest it but we can only direct out so long and then we blow it. So in a sense part of balance is minimizing the harm inevitably we will cause. We hit the books from it heal what we can and move on down the tightrope or sword’s edge. A big part of this is tension for there is always tension in nature. When a seed/flower sprouts there is tension (pulling and pushing) when we interact with people-there is a period of awkwardness and then comfort but we all know relationships are not easy to keep all the time. Without tension we will die as human beings. If we were to loose the shadow parts of ourselves we would loose the material for fertilising our psyche to grow. I love this discussion on balance. I am not Pagan but have studied many different religions. The concept of fit runs through most world religions– Buddhism. Taoism and Hinduism. I feel it’s extremely important to live in the balanced “gray areas” as someone said above than to lean too far to the white or black. It’s hard for me to step outside Christianity to be at it objectively since I was raised in it. This is my culture and mostlly I had positive experiences as a child but I recognize there are gaps in religion. So I will add my two-cents. I believe we are each created with our own internal spiritual “balance” that is unique and precious to us. A spiritual balance has nothing to do with the religion one follows. The religion helps one to connect spiritually. But we can actually connect without a religion because religion is only secondary to spirituality. It’s just a tool to back up us connect. You may find spiritual balance as a Pagan others may find balance practicing Yoga. comfort others find spiritual balance climbing mountains or making music. When we live in balance we can consider all for who they are and how they cerebrate spiritually or if they choose not to connect at all. Those who live in the black and white seem to have difficulties accepting differences in others. This is because they are unbalanced and feel threatened by their precarious positions. When you are balanced you don’t feel threatened by other points of believe other religions other ways of life other cultures. ballance to me means just the right amounts no giving adore to just one male deity or one feamale deity also the ballance of ideals as i am pagan but i am allso wiccan trad and i also learn budisim i take what works for me from all three and ballance it out in a way that gives recognition to all three forms of worship it might not work for every one but its what works for me I am especially pleased to see that change surface those who do not practice a Pagan Path still felt comfortable with expressing their own views… this is what the Crossroads is all about - being a safe place where EVERYONE can feel safe in sharing their thoughts regardless of your own spirituality. We may not always accept with one another but we can still come together and learn from each other. You undergo all made some good thought-provoking comments that I undergo enjoyed reading and I hope others have enjoyed them as well. In the DC area a lot of people tend to forget about the last item and I think that’s why the bring home the bacon/life balance is so skewed. If you’re not comfortable with your own affiliate then you won’t be comfortable period. fit is not Spirituality. Balance is not found through religion and religion is not Spirituality. Balance is not,knowing how long to work or how many walks in the woods one needs to ‘feel’ balance. fit is what occurs once we are able to connect with our inner self admit to all our weaknesses approach our fears evaluate them learn to understand the mechanisms of the two in request to relinquish what does not belng to our Spirit. To love and dislike equally each aspect of our rational and irrational sides (right vs wrong good vs not good love vs fear etc..) and yet know how to nourish and care for the wounds that we self inflict in order to bring serenity to our existance through these oponents. Acceptance is the first step to be freedom. Freedom from judgement freedom from all fears freedom from the binds that hold us in captivity in our own existence. Balance is serenity from within for all that is and acceptance of all that which we are. fit is the quieting of the mind and the magnificent expression of the animate. This sculpture shows the write for "connect".. and that is what Deaf Pagan Crossroads is all about - making connections. Connections between Deafhood and Paganism connections between the Deaf Community and the Hearing Community connections between myself as the writer and you as the reader. I wish you will take the time to read my various posts some of which are listed below. accept to the Crossroads and I wish you make some connections here!

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"Exploring Paganism - Finding Balance" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-29 14:23:02

This balance is not an unmoving or stagnant thing but rather like a wave with a peak and trough the end result is balance. The earth’s season are another example of this dynamic balance. This concept of dynamic balance is what steered me to Druidry instead of some of the other Pagan religions (such as Wicca) many of which have prohibitions or at the very least admonishments not to do harm unless as a last resort. For my path doing “harm” is as necessary to being balanced as doing “good”. The trick is to learn and obtain the wisdom of when and where harm is needed. fit is a fascinating topic whether in spirituality or life and work. The word (and the image of the measure) seems to indicate that there are two things we must balance–good v evil harm v good fat v diet etc. Duality however is a problem on its own. It leads quickly to “them” v. “us” a dangerous place in spirituality. I think. Once we begin to reason the world into two classes. “those who think like I do,” and “those who don’t,” we run into trouble. Duality sets up the idea of right v wrong and quickly leads to taking sides and shoring them up and all of a sudden we aren’t in balance we are at odds. Or worse at war. We know people who start out evenly but then move to seeing the world in color and white–in duality. But most of us live our lives in shades of gray–we do things right we fail we help others we are selfish. We are built for balance. We have two hands two arms two legs two ears. We build a lot of our idiomatic speech on ‘either this or that’ analogies. But there is so much more to direct so much more to consider. I see balance as which has been mentioned earlier as something which is dynamic it is always shifting and always moving. However this shifting and moving is not in ways we may think and are actually echos of deeper aspects of ourselves at work. Psychology calls them Archetypes those of a more literary bent call them metaphors and spiritual circles often call it symbolism. Whatever the name balance is something akin to karma but different as well. For instance using the idea of walking a razor’s edge balance will probbably consider at one point having the razor cut into our paths/ideas to change state them up or let out the toxins. It may briefly divide you which is what you may need at the time. AND it may not be a painless process. When we began to seek balance in our life we automaticlly subscribe to the possiblitiy of chaos happening or our ideas being broken change state and exposed. It’s not that it is appropriate for us to do harm in some instances but rather a consequence of us being a whole person. No be who we are we will do harm at points in our life. To a certain extent we have choice over this-on how to maifest it but we can only hold out so long and then we blow it. So in a sense move of balance is minimizing the harm inevitably we will cause. We learn from it heal what we can and move on down the tightrope or sword’s edge. A big move of this is tension for there is always tension in nature. When a seed/flower sprouts there is tension (pulling and pushing) when we act with people-there is a period of awkwardness and then comfort but we all know relationships are not easy to maintain all the time. Without tension we will die as human beings. If we were to loose the shadow parts of ourselves we would loose the material for fertilising our psyche to grow. I love this discussion on balance. I am not Pagan but undergo studied many different religions. The concept of balance runs through most world religions– Buddhism. Taoism and Hinduism. I feel it’s extremely important to live in the balanced “gray areas” as someone said above than to lean too far to the white or black. It’s hard for me to go outside Christianity to look at it objectively since I was raised in it. This is my culture and mostlly I had positive experiences as a child but I recognize there are gaps in religion. So I will add my two-cents. I believe we are each created with our own internal spiritual “balance” that is unique and precious to us. A spiritual balance has nothing to do with the religion one follows. The religion helps one to connect spiritually. But we can actually connect without a religion because religion is only secondary to spirituality. It’s just a tool to back up us connect. You may find spiritual balance as a Pagan others may find balance practicing Yoga. Still others sight spiritual balance climbing mountains or making music. When we live in balance we can respect all for who they are and how they cerebrate spiritually or if they choose not to connect at all. Those who be in the color and white seem to have difficulties accepting differences in others. This is because they are unbalanced and feel threatened by their precarious positions. When you are balanced you don’t feel threatened by other points of view other religions other ways of life other cultures. ballance to me means just the right amounts no giving adore to just one male deity or one feamale deity also the ballance of ideals as i am pagan but i am allso wiccan trad and i also practice budisim i take what works for me from all three and ballance it out in a way that gives recognition to all three forms of worship it might not work for every one but its what works for me I am especially pleased to see that even those who do not practice a Pagan Path still felt comfortable with expressing their own views… this is what the Crossroads is all about - being a safe place where EVERYONE can feel safe in sharing their thoughts regardless of your own spirituality. We may not always agree with one another but we can still come together and learn from each other. You have all made some good thought-provoking comments that I have enjoyed reading and I wish others have enjoyed them as come up. In the DC area a lot of populate tend to forget about the last item and I think that’s why the work/life fit is so skewed. If you’re not comfortable with your own company then you won’t be comfortable period. Balance is not Spirituality. fit is not found through religion and religion is not Spirituality. Balance is not,knowing how desire to work or how many walks in the woods one needs to ‘conclude’ fit. Balance is what occurs once we are able to connect with our inner self admit to all our weaknesses face our fears accept them hit the books to understand the mechanisms of the two in order to give what does not belng to our Spirit. To love and hate equally each aspect of our rational and irrational sides (alter vs wrong good vs not good love vs fear etc..) and yet know how to cater and care for the wounds that we self inflict in order to bring serenity to our existance through these oponents. Acceptance is the first step to be freedom. Freedom from judgement freedom from all fears freedom from the binds that hold us in captivity in our own existence. fit is serenity from within for all that is and acceptance of all that which we are. Balance is the quieting of the mind and the magnificent expression of the Spirit. This sculpture shows the sign for "connect".. and that is what Deaf Pagan Crossroads is all about - making connections. Connections between Deafhood and Paganism connections between the Deaf Community and the Hearing Community connections between myself as the writer and you as the reader. I wish you will take the time to read my various posts some of which are listed below. accept to the Crossroads and I hope you make some connections here!

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"Paganism" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-26 02:35:58

You've surely heard this word used in many different ways. Some referto non-Christians as Pagans others- such as Wiccans and various earthreligions- proudly determine as Pagan. So what does it mean? Well asthere is no proper consensus. "paganism" can intelligibly be tracedback through history. go connect us for a discussion as we break somestereotypes and shed some lighten. Some accept the term first existed to exposit non-Christians who's practices seemed rustic or old-fashioned (non-Western). Others believe that "pagans" first referred to civilians as opposed to the military elites. Yet regardless of the original meaning many today who identify as Pagan go earth-bound belief systems such as Wiccan. Witchcraft or Druidism. We ordain discuss the beliefs and practices of these religions and spiritual traditions that are too often stereotyped wrongly and so discredited There are some exceptional recourses in the pre-ToT section to the left.

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"MacArthur: The Emergent Church is a Form of Paganism" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 18:47:52

What you have here is a form of false religion … A form of paganism that basically wants to be thought of as Christian because it gains a certain fasten. But the underlying bottom line of this whole emerging movement is they don’t believe in any doctrine they don’t accept in any theology. Get a real-time look beneath the surface in the with our tools and. Also see our original real-time tracking system. NEW! Check out where you can Digg and watch the activity of your favorite Presidential candidates. --> DIGG. DIGG IT. DUGG. DIGG THIS. Digg graphics logos designs summon headers button icons scripts and other function names are the trademarks of Digg Inc.

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"Paganism gets new life on campus" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 15:51:05

Tamara Cheshire believes there is a great misunderstanding about what it means to be a pagan which can lead to disapproval among ill-informed populate. “I think there’s a stigma associated with the term pagan,” says Cheshire adjunct professor of anthropology and ethnic studies and faculty adviser to the City College Pagan Club. Cheshire says this stigma can make finding an claim definition of paganism nearly impossible and that many non-pagans are quick to offer their own definition while having an obvious lack of knowledge about the belief system.“The most basic definition of a pagan would be someone who believes in more than one god or a pantheon of gods or goddesses,” says Evelyn Wachs. City College student president and fail of the Pagan unify. “It’s not one religion. You undergo Wicca. Druidism. Voodoo as well as Celtic Reconstructionists. There are also populate who simply have in mind to themselves as pagan or neo-pagan.” Paganismoriginated in a time when people lived in accordance with and at themercy of the laws of nature according to Kardia Zoe. Web master ofkardia2000 com and an ordained attend of the Essene faith. Much ofthe beliefs of pagans are rooted in the observance of the changing ofthe seasons and other major occurrences in nature. Many modern-daycelebrations were originally pagan. Holidays and traditions such asHalloween and Christmas trees can be traced back to ancient paganpractices.“When you get drink to thecore the religions of the world are almost identical but expressed indifferent languages,” points out Steven McIntosh founding member vicepresident and treasurer of the unify. Pagans celebrate eightmajor holidays according to Wachs. The pass solstice summersolstice move equinox and autumn equinox make up four of them. Other pagan holidays areSamhain pronounced sow-en which we experience as Halloween today; Imbolc,the first beat moon in Aquarius on Feb. 1; Beltaine the first fullmoon in Taurus on May 1; and Lughnasadh which falls on Aug. 1 and isthe first full moon in Leo. The diversity of beliefswithin paganism presents a challenge for Wachs who is careful toselect topics for discussion at club meetings that accommodate as manyschools of thought as possible.“She tends to try to cover the gamut,” says Cheshire about Wachs’ role in the unify. Stigmas about pagans furnish a different set of challenges to the club.“The discrimination on campus is frightful,” Cheshire says.“Some populate have really whacked-out theories about what we do,” Wachs says. Wachs does point out thatshe feels fortunate to be at City College because a diverserepresentation of beliefs is accept here. She implores people to stopby club meetings.“Everybody’s accept to Pagan Club meetings,” Wach says. “You don’t have to be pagan to come.”Copyright: All logos and trademarks in this site/portal are property of their respective owner. The articles and comments are property of their original authors everything else © http://www thothweb com You can connect our news and forums by clicking. FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. News and informational articles posted here are for the non-profit purposes of criticism comment education and news reporting. We accept this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in 17 U. S. C § 107. PHP-Nuke Copyright &write; 2004 by Francisco Burzi. This is free software and you may redistribute it under the. Powered by

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"Wellcome to : Eco-EarthDragon-Paganism Europe ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-11 18:21:46

Why 'Dragon' ?'The Dragon' is an ancient name for the energies (Shakti) of the hide and ley-lines are sometimes also called 'Dragon lines'. In the mythology of Europe Dragons are closely related to serpents which undergo always represented the dark hidden power of the Earth.· Eco-Paganism is a abandon of Contemporary Paganism.· Eco-Pagans partly convey their spirituality through environmental activism and rituals of resistance.· Most Eco-Pagans are environmental activists who were drawn to Paganism. In Eco-Pagan practice belief in the sacredness of nature becomes an embodiment of political commitment. As a prove the sacred body is integrated in political strategies of resistance. Many Eco-Pagan beliefs are rooted in eco-philosophy and elements of Deep Ecology and Eco-Feminism are especially evident. But Eco-Paganism is more than is an expression of a holistic belief system - it is a way of being-in-the-world. Eco-Pagan learn engenders subjective feelings of interconnectedness as well as inspiration to political activism. (Plows 1998b).

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"Re: Paganism is the path for all people?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 17:44:03

@kristine17 Well. I'd say your friend simply has a inspect of zeal. Ideologically? No. The idea seems ridiculous to me. Now might be a good time to clarify that I promise everyone here that my own faith can strongly qualify as any spin on 'paganism' you want to impel at me change surface if I don't think of my faith as per se. It is and other cram too... Now that that's clarified approve to the topic at transfer... I feel very strongly that we cut ourselves off from things very thoroughly. Sometimes so thoroughly that we convince our minds and not our Selfs that what we cut ourselves off from does not exist. This is what I think of atheists but it isn't an bruise. I could mention a couple things I've slammed the door shut on. The thing to look at is not the act of a person cutting off say their spiritual senses that is easy to understand. Pay attention to the things that populate cut off from and you will see the cosmos is too varied for or anything to be the alter way every single lifetime. In other words as you act thru the move of your lives you're going to try everything... People cut themselves off from things they've already done or aren't ready for yet. Or Divinity simply decided that they would do this and wouldn't try that. Maybe it has nothing to do with free ordain and choices at all. Maybe it does... Err can ye' explain that statement please? Angry Mmmmm actually don't as I DO see what your trying to say but gratify don't mark all us common folk as honour-less in fact in general we conduct ourselves with far more honour than our wealthy "betters" be! No offense at all meant. act two populate: a Roman general who's triumphed multiple times and received public acclamations for both valor and virtue and an unknown laborer. He might be virtuous perhaps vicious; it doesn't make any difference. Now a new religious sect comes along. It promises eternal life in exchange for one single ethical tenet: public honor is a shameful goal. Our Roman general is unlikely to adopt such a position when his old religion is supportive of his various triumphs. Our anonymous laborer however whether or not he's good or bad ordain say. "Sign me up! I don't have to worry about triumphs or garlands or acclamations anyway; I don't have to furnish up anything because I don't undergo anything; I'm virtuous already!" If humility is the main virtue of a religion it ordain naturally draw those who are in humble circumstances; a poor person may very come up consider himself superior to our Roman general or to someone who has clarify furniture eats expensive food and dresses ostentatiously; but as Celsus says this is to make a virtue out of necessity. It makes no sense to pride oneself on not having what one could never undergo obtained; but this is precisely the mindset of the early Christians as Gibbon come up explains. I agree with Aericus. And it is comfort a mind set today. For the leading ministry within in the Christian faith is to alter a helping transfer or door to door ministry to poor i am all for helping the poor and those in be. But gratify don't cover religious dogma with in it. Have you ever seen a christian going door to door in a rich area. A good friend of exploit from India was talking about reglion and the differnce. One of the big concerns in India is that Christian minitsry coming over to back up in the poor areas of India they never go to the fasten aflent areas. They preach that all they have to do is beleive and they be saved. Then hand out food and clothes. He was calling it bribery. I tend to agree. Sory if all topic felt moved and compelled A good friend of mine from India was talking about reglion and the differnce. One of the big concerns in India is that Christian minitsry coming over to back up in the poor areas of India they never go to the moor aflent areas. They preach that all they have to do is beleive and they be saved. Then hand out food and clothes. He was calling it bribery. I tend to accept. Hear Thou. Great care of the Gods. With turrets crowned on Ida's holy forge,Fierce lions reigned and curbed obey Thy will. Firm Thy own omens; lead us on to contend,And let Thy Phrygians check in Thy right!------------------------------------------------------------Virgil’s Aeneid X. 252-255 They preach that all they undergo to do is beleive and they be saved. Then hand out food and clothes. He was calling it bribery. I be to accept. Modern Hellenismos is a religious movement that reconstructs the ancient Greek religion in a modern context. The practice uses a method that adapts the old with the new using the best available archaeological bear witness with intellectual honesty. Those attracted to the ancient Greek religion want to experience what Hellenists believe. What does Hellenismos say about sin and salvation creation and the afterlife? Theology is simply put a system school or body of educated opinions concerning the Divine and religious questions and provides for a reasoned address that creates.

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"A Quotation Worth Pondering" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 14:30:35

"I love the Lord and Lady but They can be dangerous[....] And They show us the Aspect that is in our hearts. Whether the pot hits the kettle or the kettle hits the pot... I think that's why They move so indirectly in this world. They are...*too real*.. for it to be safe for us to meet Them face-to-face on this align of the conceal. So we see Them in dream and vision and prophecy and through Their world itself instead...." Stirling. New American Library. NY. NY. ISBN 978-0-451-46170-4As I have said before. Mr. Stirling presents a more muscular Wicca than has been popular for many years a Wicca that is far far closer to the Wicca in which I was trained than is the Wicca presented by say. Llewellyn Publications. Despite the pierce that puts some folks off these stories. I think they are a very very good introduction to Wicca as it was originally conceived. Blessed be,Baird.

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"Nazi Paganism" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 20:23:08

"To put the world in order we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order we must put the family in request; to put the family in request we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life we must first set our hearts alter."─ compose Roy Schoeman reminds those who have chosen to forget the fact that "far from being an outgrowth of Christian culture (or even historic Christian anti-Semitism). Nazi ideology consisted of an interweaving of Germanic ultra-nationalism and a neo-Germanic paganism"─. A commenter informs us that the Bavarian Catholic aristocrat patriot who led the was convinced that the Fuerher was the. I remember reading that Lutheran theologian and member of the resistance considered this with his colleagues but utimately rejected the idea because Hitler was too apparently evil; the ordain appear to be good to many if not most. Hitler was one of many small-

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