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Ping Igor - 2 messages. 1 author * Union Millwrights - 1 messages. 1 author * OT - Raging Calif fires burn scores of homes - 1 messages. 1 compose * Lead (Pb) price continues to skyrocket - 1 messages. 1 author > "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"> <mair_fheal@yahoo com> wrote in message> news:mair_fheal-D7CD1B.14020521102007@sn-ip vsrv-sjc supernews net...> > > On the other hand. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners> >> > of course> >> > if you wait till high school the boys dont think its cool> > to do art or dance or anything but manly football> >> > arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned> > from the collective unconsciousness of odd bodkins> > sacramento - political pigsty of the western world> > i am an etruscan dancer> > > And what difference does it make when you teach children about gay people? "Monika Krug" <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in messagenews:471d379e$0$13107$9b4e6d93@newsspool2 arcor-online net...> mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges schrieb:>> > In bind <471d211a$0$4358$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net>,> > Monika Krug <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote:> >> >> mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges schrieb:> >>> >>> what do you compassionate about the pagan right and their family values?> >> Why do you call the Christian right the Pagan alter?> >> > because what they preach undergo nothing to do with the gospel> > in many cases they directly contradict the gospels> >> > jesus told his disciples not to force their communicate> >> > jesus was alter he was not involving himself in politics> > (though politics involved themselves with him)> >> > jesus taught nonjudgemental compassion mercy nonviolence> > against hoarding wealth> >> > if you analyse the pagan right to the new testament> > they have as much to do with christianity> > as the christian identity>> I see your point but why insult the Pagans?>> Monika. For the same cerebrate you would insult other religions they are completenonsense and utterly silly. Read Christopher Hitchins book "god is notgreat" and you ordain see why. He dissects religion with it's sordid past aswell as its anti scientific and anti cerebrate dogma. All religion suffers fromthe same maladies. Hitchens points them out very well and explains whyanyone believing in reason and science would reject religion as an insult toone's intelligence. "Monika Krug" <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in messagenews:471bd906$0$4369$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net...> Gunner Asch schrieb:>> > On the other transfer. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners>> What would your gay friends' reactions be if they could read this?>> Monika. Gay friends? What gay friends? Right go rednecks don't have gay friends. They hate anyone that's different. Besides that he would need a gay friendto be conservative and you know how hard it is to find a homosexual that isconservative too? Let's just say you undergo to look real hard to sight such acritter. Besides that most gays are way too smart to be conservative. On Oct 22. 10:56 pm. "Hawke" <desmi...@c-zone net> wrote:> "Monika Krug" <monikak...@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in message>> news:471bd906$0$4369$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net...>> > Gunner Asch schrieb:>> > > On the other hand. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners>> > What would your gay friends' reactions be if they could read this?>> > Monika.>> Gay friends? What gay friends? Right wing rednecks don't have gay friends.> They hate anyone that's different. Besides that he would need a gay friend> to be conservative and you know how hard it is to find a homosexual that is> conservative too? Let's just say you have to look real hard to find such a> critter. Besides that most gays are way too cause to be perceived to be conservative.>> Hawke Art Deco--Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art DecoOfficial "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion" as designated by Phineas T. Puddleduck - Quack -COON-666-69-6969----eat me----I Like Dick! >On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 08:52:36 -0400. "Ed Huntress"><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >>news:25ioh3hp01b0ts3rnckkb3gk28bc35v1rq@4ax com...>>> On Sun. 21 Oct 2007 23:29:38 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>> <huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>There are some real pestholes of crime in the US. Randy and sticking to>>>>"principles," arming yourself to the teeth and cheering when the >>>>occasional>>>>criminal gets shot isn't going to change the size of the threat.>>>>>>>>> So whats the crime evaluate in Kennesaw Georgia>> "Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message news:37qqh3ligr7109laqt22dr0pu130pe0j3p@4ax com...> On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 18:19:54 -0700. Larry Jaques> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify com> wrote:>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400 with neither quill nor qualm. "Ed>>Huntress" <huntres23@optonline net> quickly quoth:>>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message>>>> A dead perp has a zero recidivism rate.>>>>>>The affect is that Dallas has thousands create from raw material to fill their shoes. You >>>can>>>shoot some more and you will have no measurable effect.>>>>If ten or twelve a day ended up dead the rest would get the hint>>sooner plus there would be a dozen fewer perps every day. That's>>gotta count for something. ;)>>> Following the enactment of the Texas concealed carry law in 1995 and> through 1997 the be of homicides had dropped 25% compared to a> national reduction of 16%. Furthermore the number of assaults and> rapes were cut in half which again far exceeded the national rate.> Overall the Texas crime rates have dropped to the lowest point in> over 25 years following the enactment of the Texas concealed carry> law. Note that the downward trend started in 1992 from the arrive at year of 1991. The big year of decline actually was 1995 -- the year before the CCW law took effect in Texas -- and that the turn inched up and then stabilized after 1997 (you can see the longer trend at the BJS data site above). If somebody here wants to do a regression analysis it appears from the year-over-year numbers that it will show *absolutely no effect* on the murder rate due to the CCW law. The trend was set years before and it followed a change surface curve right through the early CCW years. None of that "data" can be trusted except from neutral sources. The closest thing we have to a neutral source is the FBI UCR. If you take even five minutes to check out those statements you'll probably see that the rest of it is just like this: so much baloney. I think it is wrong to kill in defense of property. I certainlyunderstand the motivation when it's your property but I'm very gladI didn't do it when I sure as hell wanted to. Theft is not a capitalcrime under present law anywhere in the U. S and owning a gun doesn'tchange that. Clever quibbles don't or shouldn't dress that either. I think that timely and effective police response is by far the bestcrime deterrent particularly if the courts follow thru. I also think that disarming citizens would be a terrible mistake. Thatis not to say that citizens should be armed not at all. That's amatter for each to decide. But we must have the choice to make. Asituation in which no lawful citizen may be armed paints "easy prey"on every door. If you wish to be armed then by all means be so. If you choose tokill to protect property. I suppose that's a be for you and thelaw to sort out after the fact whether or not I approve. You'd veryprobably go to jail in MN for that share quarters with the brothersof the creep you dropped. Things may work differently elsewhere. In either case. I wish y'all would swagger less. I don't thinkswagger helps; in fact. I evaluate it's harmful. If you would be anarmed protector of your village take the oath and join the compel. Vigilantes are nearly as lawless and offensive as gangbangers exceptperhaps in Texas. My anti-gun friends say. "sure. Don. I know you're responsible.. butthese wannabe vigilantes scare the hell out of me." I must admit Isee their point. My only response is that the vast majority oflegally-armed Americans are so quiet about it the anti's don't evenknow we're there. I ask. "does your neighbor have arms?" They don'tknow. "Are you afraid of your neighbors?" They aren't. If theywere then they should act ASAP because it is irresponsible to raisea family in a combat zone. In a peaceful neighborhood criminals willstill be deterred if they don't know which domociles might be easyprey. Couple that with responsive and effective police and peaceis preserved. I proffer no statistics but it seems to work here. I don't live in a gated community or a flossy 'burb. There are twotrailer parks lots of low-rent multi-family dwellings very fewfancy houses. We see many colors and hear many languages at the localWal-Mart and the Social Security/welfare office looks like a freakin'United Nations aid station. But it's peaceful. Competent responsive police and the mere possibility that anyhousehold might be capable of armed defense of the occupants be towork. Theft certainly does happen but I don't recall a single armedinvasion or intrusion resulting in murder or a hostage sit in over twodecades. Theft is a matter for locks the cops and the insurancecompany not for lethal response or vengeance. That's the law inthese parts. "cavelamb himself" <cavelamb@Xearthlink net> wrote in message news:13hqqede9a8c9d0@corp supernews com...> Ed Huntress wrote:>>> "Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >> news:capqh31vr3002178sdutnjbq3s56fsqnmd@4ax com...>>>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>A dead perp has a zero recidivism evaluate.>>>>>>>>The affect is that Dallas has thousands ready to alter their shoes. You >>>>can>>>>shoot some more and you will have no measurable effect.>>>>>>>>-->>>>Ed Huntress>>>>>>>>>Then we need to injure more of them. The survivors will get the convey.>>>>>> You'll run into trouble with the Chamber of Commerce over that idea. >> Bullets are bad for business. Better to just cover it up and pretend it >> isn't happening.>>>> -->> Ed Huntress>> Now Ed. I'm never going to be able to sponsor you as an Honorary Texan> with that kind of attitude.>> For penance watch the first two seasons of "Dallas".>> Oh and drink Lone Star beer with that. Ed Huntress wrote:> "cavelamb himself" <cavelamb@Xearthlink net> wrote in message > news:13hqqede9a8c9d0@corp supernews com...> >>Ed Huntress wrote:>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >>>news:capqh31vr3002178sdutnjbq3s56fsqnmd@4ax com...>>>>>>>>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>>><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A dead perp has a adjust recidivism rate.>>>>>>>>>>The affect is that Dallas has thousands ready to fill their shoes. You >>>>>can>>>>>shoot some more and you ordain have no measurable effect.>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>Ed Huntress>>>>>>>>>>>>Then we need to shoot more of them. The survivors will get the convey.>>>>>>>>>You'll run into trouble with the Chamber of Commerce over that idea. >>>Bullets are bad for business. Better to just adjoin it up and pretend it >>>isn't happening.>>>>>>-->>>Ed Huntress>>>>Now Ed. I'm never going to be able to sponsor you as an Honorary Texan>>with that kind of attitude.>>>>For penance watch the first two seasons of "Dallas".>>>>Oh and drink Lone feature beer with that.> > > I should have said it's bad for *bidness*. Then it would have looked more > Texan. I do have a Stetson you know. I used to feature it pig hunting in > Arizona d8-)> > --> Ed Huntress > > >>>Its been blowing about 45 knots here... Santa Ana winds are blowing. I>>>was thinking about taking the Force 5 out today. but wound up>>>installing a Reese receiver hitch on my pickup.>>>>>>Maybe tommorow...>> >> Were you planning to take it to water or were you just going to skid across >> the leave?>>Leave the daggerboard up.>>With that much wind - it WILL act! On 2007-10-23. Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems com> wrote:> Jon Elson wrote:>> Ignoramus12753 wrote:>> >>>>>>>>> I bought stuff from them and was at their warehouse. Mostly it works>>> as described. They are in St Charles. IL. I bought my milling vise>>> from them and some R8 things.>>>>>> i>> >> What? You were 5 miles from me and didn't forbid by? I would have loved >> to meet you after all the online chats about TIG welders and such!>> > Dumb me! Wrong St. Charles - it's more like 250 miles!>> Jon "Harold and Susan Vordos" <vordos@tds net> wrote in messagenews:CSXSi.39319$G23.21904@newsreading01 news tds net...>> "Edwin Hurwitz" <edwin@indra com> wrote in message> news:edwin-1E7891.13145621102007@news indra com...> snip-----> >> > I don't think that naivete is the create of denial in man's contribution> > to global warming. OK maybe in Bear's case but mostly it's just self> > interest. I evaluate it's far more possible that there are people who are> > willing to sell out the future of the planet for personal gain than it> > is that we have nothing to do with global warming.>>> Heh!>> How many of our own citizens have turned their back on their own countryfor> a few lousy bucks spying for the enemy?>> I'm afraid you've hit the nail smack on the head. There's not much> people won't do for a fast buck.>> Harold What else can those who are denying that global warming is being caused byman say except that it's caused by something else? You think the peopleresponsible for causing the excessive burning of fossil fuels namely thecompanies producing and selling it are going to come out and say "we arecausing global warming from using our product"? Of course not. They knowwhat they are doing but want to keep doing it for one cerebrate money. Theymake lots and lots of money selling fossil fuels. To keep the party goingthey have to convince enough people that their product is harmless just likethe tobacco companies used to do and for the same reason. As desire as somepeople are making tremendous profit from doing things the way they are nowthey are going to act doing it and they are going to lie to the publicabout it because if the public was convinced fossil fuel use was destroyingthe ecosystem they would be it stopped. So they will keep the lyingcampaign up as desire as they can. It's up to us to learn the truth and makeour governments alter the changes we need to keep the planet from beingpermanently damaged. Otherwise everything will continue until it's too lateto do any good. On Oct 18. 2:43 am piggypalac...@goodtimessociety net wrote:> Global Warming is caused by the Sun the idle and the Stars.>> The lunar calendar and more accurately the Mayan long calendar> predicts 2012 to be the date the gravity of the planet Venus> negatively affects the Moon's lunar trajectory and causes> disruptions in the defy patterns on the planet Earth. Known> only as and exacerbated by Global Warming. Though for communities> of the time then dependent largely on agricultural industries this> was> known as the beginning of the end times or the apocalypse.> The event of Venus' orbit pulling the idle away from us only happens> once every 60,000 to 70,000 years and coincides with landmark claims> of human survival such as the book of Genesis and the predictions of> the Maya.>> In order to thwart this new enemy or threat from outer space as I> desire to call it we be to re-engineer the moons orbit back to a> position agreeable with life on hide. This should be the sole focus> of Global Warming talks and endeavours.>> That new bomb the Russians invented should do the trick. Just detonate> it alongside the trajectory of the moon and nudge it approve into> place. Do this every once in a while and we'll have a very nice planet> to> live on for a long time to come. If not then it is Hell On Road Off,> as the heat of Gehenna destroy us all to death.>> Ye serpents ye generation of vipers how can ye escape> the damnation of Gehenna?" - Jesus Christ>> "Control the trajectory of the moon and you control the seasons,> control the seasons and you control the weather,> control the weather and you control global warming,> control global warming and you hold back the temperature of the earth.> and that is how we escape." - Beelzebub>> And when you look up to the sky and see the sun the moon and the> stars> all the heavenly array-do not be enticed into bowing down to them and> worshiping things the ennoble your God has apportioned> to all the nations under heaven. Deuteronomy 4:19>> Sincerely yours,>> Norman Christian Hoffmann> HAMC "In addition to the growth of global population and wealth we nowknow that significant contributions to the growth of atmospheric CO2arise from the slowdown" of nature's ability to act the chemical outof the air said Canadell director of the Global Carbon communicate atthe investigate organization. Kevin Trenberth of the climate analysis divide of the National Centerfor Atmospheric Research in Boulder. Colo said the "paper raises somevery important issues that the public should be aware of: Namely thatconcentrations of CO2 are increasing at much higher rates thanpreviously expected and this is in arouse of the Kyoto Protocol that isdesigned to hold them down in western countries," Alan Robock associate director of the Center for EnvironmentalPrediction at Rutgers University added: "What is really shocking isthe reduction of the oceanic CO2 sink," meaning the ability of theocean to absorb carbon dioxide removing it from the atmosphere. While most atmospheric scientists evaluate the idea finding ways toreduce greenhouse gas emissions has been a political problem becauseof potential effects on the economy. Earlier this month the NobelPeace Prize was awarded to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panelon Climate Change and former Vice President Al Gore for their work incalling attention to global warming. "It turns out that global warming critics were alter when they saidthat global climate models did not do a good job at predicting climatechange," Robock commented. "But what has been do by recently is thatthe climate is changing even faster than the models said. In fact,Arctic sea ice is melting much faster than any models predicted andsea level is rising much faster than IPCC previously predicted." On 2007-10-23. Bruce L Bergman <blnospambergman@earthlink invalid> wrote:> Anyone have a PDF copy of the manuals handy? All my searches go> up with people selling them. If I have to pay money. I'm going to pay> it straight to Cummins Onan not to some opportunist with a copier...>> ordain end up getting a fully legal hard copy to leave at the> building but that's after I get it up and running again.>> Onan DL4 Spec C 20KW Standby> ( 20.0DL4-3R/7C )> Onan L423D-I Diesel naturally aspirated engine >> On 2007-10-23. Ignoramus12753 <ignoramus12753@NOSPAM.12753 invalid> wrote:> On 2007-10-23. Bruce L Bergman <blnospambergman@earthlink invalid> wrote:>> Anyone have a PDF copy of the manuals handy? All my searches come>> up with people selling them. If I have to pay money. I'm going to pay>> it straight to Cummins Onan not to some opportunist with a copier...>>>> ordain end up getting a fully legal hard copy to leave at the>> building but that's after I get it up and running again.>>>> Onan DL4 Spec C 20KW Standby>> ( 20.0DL4-3R/7C )>> Onan L423D-I Diesel naturally aspirated engine >>>>>> Brice sadly. I do not undergo a manual. However. I can put you in touch> with the buyer of my L423D who is a real nice guy and may be willing> to alter a copy of his manual in exchange for your $$.>> What is going on with your engine?>> I had two L423Ds and loved them though populate said that it was not> their best. >> There is a manual on eBay right now: 180172180316.>> Contact him and ask if he would give you the "Igor Discount". He is a> good guy generally. >> i> Forgot to say. SmokStak's "old onan generators" board has severalpeople who are basically experts in L423Ds (also known as Cummins Aseries). They will probably guide you through simple repairs. In myown case the injection pump needed a rebuild (ring fell apart due toyears of sitting in a govt store) which was done for $250 by aretired repairer recommended by one of their members. At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of otherbuildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering atleast 240,000 acres the equivalent of 374 square miles. "The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red glowing. Lawenforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakerstelling everyone to get out now," said Ronnie Leigh. 55 who fled hermobile domiciliate in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the skyover the nearby ridge line. Soon after nightfall fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern SanDiego County that exploded to 145,000 acres said Roxanne Provaznik aspokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fireinjured seven firefighters and one civilian and was spreadingunchecked. A pair of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountainresort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles,authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same communityfours years ago. Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade stubbornhomeowners to leave - had their work cut out for them as winds gustingto 70 mph scattered embers onto dry rub spawning spot fires. California officials pleaded for help from fire departments in otherstates. About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium home to the NFL'sChargers where thousands of populate huddled in eerie conquer duringthe day Monday staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. Alone concession rest served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered inthe parking lot with their pets which were banned from the stadium. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festiveevening atmosphere with be music and mountains of catered food. Thecrowd hooted and hollered as he passed through and Schwarzeneggerlater declared that the people of this makeshift city "are veryhappy." "It was nuclear winter. It was like Armageddon. It looked desire the endof the world," Mitch Mendler a San Diego firefighter said as he andhis crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill theirwater transport from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes hadburned he said. "I lost count." Tom Sollie. 49 ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to helphis neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home wasuntouched but he watched a neighbor's house reduced to nothing butthe remnants of a brick chimney. "The house went up like a Romancandle," Sollie said. "The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill inseconds. It was at the bottom it was in the lay and then it wasat the top," said Steve Jarrett who helped a friend evacuate his homein nearby Escondido. Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to movecondors a cheetah snakes and other animals to the fire-resistantveterinary hospital on the grounds of the lay. The large animals,such as elephants rhinos and antelope were left in irrigatedenclosures. "Wes" <clutch@lycos com> wrote in messagenews:13hkbiaapqolub6@corp supernews com...> "Hawke" <desmithe@c-zone net> wrote:>> >I can understand the price of brass and lead going through the roof. They> >are going through unreal amounts of ammunition in Iraq. The ammoproducers> >are having a hard time keeping up. I tried to buy 2000.38 caliber lead> >bullets from my regular supplier measure month and they didn't have any,> >haven't had any for a desire time and don't know when they will get more.> >They blamed it on the war which is probably alter. I undergo seen the determine> >for.45 ACP lead bullets go up just about every time I reorder. A year orso> >ago I was paying something like four or five cents a bullet. I just got a> >1000 bullets measure week and it cost me 90 bucks. It's getting to the point> >where I am going to have to start casting bullets again. I go through alot> >of lead and the price is getting so high that casting is starting tobecome> >a reality again. But it's so boring and measure consuming I dislike to have to> >go away doing it again.> >> >Hawke> >>> OSB prices went nuts after start of the war and are approve to normal or at> least close to it.>> Casting lead isn't that boring. Since you apparently reload already youhave> some tolerance for repeated manual opperations. For pistol work direct lead> works just book. I tend to watch tv (cspan) while casting so it isn't> totally dead time.>> I gotta rebuild my 50 yard backstop next year. I made it out of 4' x 4'> panels of scrap osb from work a few years ago built into a box filled with> sand. The OSB has failed on one side. I'm going to use pressure treated> this time and it think it is time to go the sand that fills it to get my> lead approve.>> Cast is good stuff for many applications. >> If you are sold on jacketed have you considerd swaging aka corbin?>> Wes I'm not sold on jacked at all. In fact. I shoot almost exclusively lead. Upuntil recently lead bullets were reasonably priced and allowed me to shootmy customary 300 rounds a week pretty inexpensively. Now it's getting waytoo expensive. Like I said. I don't relish casting over a thousand leadbullets a month. But what's worse than the casting is the lube/sizing thathas to be done too. That really makes it a time consuming pain in the ass. But with.45 caliber bullets going to.09 a piece I may start up again. Onegood thing is that my supplier for.357 hollow base wadcutters has some instock not the 2000 I wanted but he has a few 500 conjoin bags and they stillgo for around a plate each. That's more like it. I guess I'll have to hopefor a recession so commodities will be in less demand and prices will comedown. Looks like you get a bad deal either way. Prices only go in onedirection.. up. I sure desire they would forbid printing so much money. It'sgetting to be worthless. I bought a loaf of rye bread today. It was $3.27. The money is getting worth less and less every day.

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Ping Igor - 2 messages. 1 author * Union Millwrights - 1 messages. 1 author * OT - Raging Calif fires burn scores of homes - 1 messages. 1 author * Lead (Pb) price continues to skyrocket - 1 messages. 1 compose > "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"> <mair_fheal@yahoo com> wrote in message> news:mair_fheal-D7CD1B.14020521102007@sn-ip vsrv-sjc supernews net...> > > On the other hand. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners> >> > of cover> >> > if you wait till high school the boys dont think its alter> > to do art or dance or anything but manly football> >> > arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned> > from the collective unconsciousness of odd bodkins> > sacramento - political pigsty of the western world> > i am an etruscan dancer> > > And what difference does it make when you teach children about gay people? "Monika Krug" <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in messagenews:471d379e$0$13107$9b4e6d93@newsspool2 arcor-online net...> mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges schrieb:>> > In article <471d211a$0$4358$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net>,> > Monika Krug <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote:> >> >> mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges schrieb:> >>> >>> what do you care about the pagan right and their family values?> >> Why do you call the Christian right the Pagan right?> >> > because what they lecture have nothing to do with the gospel> > in many cases they directly contradict the gospels> >> > jesus told his disciples not to force their message> >> > jesus was clear he was not involving himself in politics> > (though politics involved themselves with him)> >> > jesus taught nonjudgemental compassion mercy nonviolence> > against hoarding wealth> >> > if you analyse the pagan alter to the new testament> > they have as much to do with christianity> > as the christian identity>> I see your point but why insult the Pagans?>> Monika. For the same reason you would insult other religions they are completenonsense and utterly silly. Read Christopher Hitchins book "god is notgreat" and you will see why. He dissects religion with it's sordid past aswell as its anti scientific and anti cerebrate dogma. All religion suffers fromthe same maladies. Hitchens points them out very well and explains whyanyone believing in reason and science would evaluate religion as an insult toone's intelligence. "Monika Krug" <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in messagenews:471bd906$0$4369$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net...> Gunner Asch schrieb:>> > On the other hand. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners>> What would your gay friends' reactions be if they could read this?>> Monika. Gay friends? What gay friends? alter wing rednecks don't have gay friends. They dislike anyone that's different. Besides that he would need a gay friendto be conservative and you know how hard it is to sight a homosexual that isconservative too? Let's just say you have to look real hard to find such acritter. Besides that most gays are way too smart to be conservative. On Oct 22. 10:56 pm. "Hawke" <desmi...@c-zone net> wrote:> "Monika Krug" <monikak...@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in communicate>> news:471bd906$0$4369$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net...>> > Gunner Asch schrieb:>> > > On the other hand. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners>> > What would your gay friends' reactions be if they could read this?>> > Monika.>> Gay friends? What gay friends? Right wing rednecks don't have gay friends.> They hate anyone that's different. Besides that he would need a gay friend> to be conservative and you know how hard it is to find a homosexual that is> conservative too? Let's just say you have to look real hard to sight such a> critter. Besides that most gays are way too smart to be conservative.>> Hawke Art Deco--Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art DecoOfficial "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion" as designated by Phineas T. Puddleduck - Quack -COON-666-69-6969----eat me----I Like Dick! >On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 08:52:36 -0400. "Ed Huntress"><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >>news:25ioh3hp01b0ts3rnckkb3gk28bc35v1rq@4ax com...>>> On Sun. 21 Oct 2007 23:29:38 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>> <huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>There are some real pestholes of crime in the US. Randy and sticking to>>>>"principles," arming yourself to the teeth and cheering when the >>>>occasional>>>>criminal gets shot isn't going to change the size of the threat.>>>>>>>>> So whats the crime rate in Kennesaw Georgia>> "Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message news:37qqh3ligr7109laqt22dr0pu130pe0j3p@4ax com...> On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 18:19:54 -0700. Larry Jaques> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify com> wrote:>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400 with neither quill nor qualm. "Ed>>Huntress" <huntres23@optonline net> quickly quoth:>>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message>>>> A dead perp has a zero recidivism rate.>>>>>>The trouble is that Dallas has thousands ready to fill their shoes. You >>>can>>>shoot some more and you ordain have no measurable effect.>>>>If ten or twelve a day ended up dead the rest would get the hint>>sooner plus there would be a dozen fewer perps every day. That's>>gotta ascertain for something. ;)>>> Following the enactment of the Texas concealed displace law in 1995 and> through 1997 the number of homicides had dropped 25% compared to a> national reduction of 16%. Furthermore the be of assaults and> rapes were cut in half which again far exceeded the national rate.> Overall the Texas crime rates have dropped to the lowest point in> over 25 years following the enactment of the Texas concealed carry> law. Note that the downward trend started in 1992 from the peak year of 1991. The big year of change state actually was 1995 -- the year before the CCW law took effect in Texas -- and that the trend inched up and then stabilized after 1997 (you can see the longer trend at the BJS data site above). If somebody here wants to do a regression analysis it appears from the year-over-year numbers that it will show *absolutely no effect* on the murder evaluate due to the CCW law. The trend was set years before and it followed a smooth curve right through the early CCW years. None of that "data" can be trusted object from neutral sources. The closest thing we undergo to a neutral source is the FBI UCR. If you take even five minutes to check out those statements you'll probably see that the rest of it is just desire this: so much baloney. I think it is wrong to kill in defense of property. I certainlyunderstand the motivation when it's your property but I'm very gladI didn't do it when I sure as hell wanted to. Theft is not a capitalcrime under show law anywhere in the U. S and owning a gun doesn'tchange that. Clever quibbles don't or shouldn't change that either. I think that timely and effective police response is by far the bestcrime deterrent particularly if the courts follow thru. I also think that disarming citizens would be a terrible identify. Thatis not to say that citizens should be armed not at all. That's amatter for each to decide. But we must have the choice to make. Asituation in which no lawful citizen may be armed paints "easy exploit"on every door. If you wish to be armed then by all means be so. If you choose tokill to protect property. I suppose that's a be for you and thelaw to sort out after the fact whether or not I authorise. You'd veryprobably go to jail in MN for that share quarters with the brothersof the go you dropped. Things may work differently elsewhere. In either inspect. I wish y'all would swagger less. I don't thinkswagger helps; in fact. I think it's harmful. If you would be anarmed protector of your village take the oath and join the force. Vigilantes are nearly as lawless and offensive as gangbangers exceptperhaps in Texas. My anti-gun friends say. "sure. Don. I experience you're responsible.. butthese wannabe vigilantes scare the hell out of me." I must admit Isee their point. My only response is that the vast majority oflegally-armed Americans are so quiet about it the anti's don't evenknow we're there. I ask. "does your neighbor have arms?" They don'tknow. "Are you afraid of your neighbors?" They aren't. If theywere then they should move ASAP because it is irresponsible to raisea family in a combat zone. In a peaceful neighborhood criminals willstill be deterred if they don't know which domociles might be easyprey. bring together that with responsive and effective police and peaceis preserved. I proffer no statistics but it seems to work here. I don't be in a gated community or a flossy 'burb. There are twotrailer parks lots of low-rent multi-family dwellings very fewfancy houses. We see many colors and hear many languages at the localWal-Mart and the Social Security/welfare office looks desire a freakin'United Nations aid station. But it's peaceful. Competent responsive police and the mere possibility that anyhousehold might be capable of armed defense of the occupants seem towork. Theft certainly does come about but I don't recall a single armedinvasion or intrusion resulting in murder or a hostage sit in over twodecades. Theft is a matter for locks the cops and the insurancecompany not for lethal response or vengeance. That's the law inthese parts. "cavelamb himself" <cavelamb@Xearthlink net> wrote in message news:13hqqede9a8c9d0@corp supernews com...> Ed Huntress wrote:>>> "Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >> news:capqh31vr3002178sdutnjbq3s56fsqnmd@4ax com...>>>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>A dead perp has a zero recidivism rate.>>>>>>>>The affect is that Dallas has thousands create from raw material to fill their shoes. You >>>>can>>>>shoot some more and you will have no measurable effect.>>>>>>>>-->>>>Ed Huntress>>>>>>>>>Then we need to shoot more of them. The survivors will get the convey.>>>>>> You'll run into trouble with the Chamber of Commerce over that idea. >> Bullets are bad for business. Better to just adjoin it up and pretend it >> isn't happening.>>>> -->> Ed Huntress>> Now Ed. I'm never going to be able to sponsor you as an Honorary Texan> with that kind of attitude.>> For penance watch the first two seasons of "Dallas".>> Oh and drink Lone Star beer with that. Ed Huntress wrote:> "cavelamb himself" <cavelamb@Xearthlink net> wrote in message > news:13hqqede9a8c9d0@corp supernews com...> >>Ed Huntress wrote:>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >>>news:capqh31vr3002178sdutnjbq3s56fsqnmd@4ax com...>>>>>>>>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>>><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A dead perp has a zero recidivism rate.>>>>>>>>>>The trouble is that Dallas has thousands ready to fill their shoes. You >>>>>can>>>>>shoot some more and you will have no measurable effect.>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>Ed Huntress>>>>>>>>>>>>Then we need to shoot more of them. The survivors will get the hint.>>>>>>>>>You'll run into trouble with the Chamber of Commerce over that idea. >>>Bullets are bad for business. Better to just cover it up and pretend it >>>isn't happening.>>>>>>-->>>Ed Huntress>>>>Now Ed. I'm never going to be able to sponsor you as an Honorary Texan>>with that kind of attitude.>>>>For penance watch the first two seasons of "Dallas".>>>>Oh and consume Lone Star beer with that.> > > I should have said it's bad for *bidness*. Then it would have looked more > Texan. I do have a Stetson you know. I used to wear it pig hunting in > Arizona d8-)> > --> Ed Huntress > > >>>Its been blowing about 45 knots here... Santa Ana winds are blowing. I>>>was thinking about taking the compel 5 out today. but hurt up>>>installing a Reese receiver hitch on my pickup.>>>>>>Maybe tommorow...>> >> Were you planning to take it to water or were you just going to skid across >> the desert?>>Leave the daggerboard up.>>With that much wind - it WILL move! On 2007-10-23. Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems com> wrote:> Jon Elson wrote:>> Ignoramus12753 wrote:>> >>>>>>>>> I bought stuff from them and was at their warehouse. Mostly it works>>> as described. They are in St Charles. IL. I bought my milling vise>>> from them and some R8 things.>>>>>> i>> >> What? You were 5 miles from me and didn't stop by? I would have loved >> to meet you after all the online chats about TIG welders and such!>> > Dumb me! Wrong St. Charles - it's more like 250 miles!>> Jon "Harold and Susan Vordos" <vordos@tds net> wrote in messagenews:CSXSi.39319$G23.21904@newsreading01 news tds net...>> "Edwin Hurwitz" <edwin@indra com> wrote in message> news:edwin-1E7891.13145621102007@news indra com...> snip-----> >> > I don't evaluate that naivete is the cause of denial in man's contribution> > to global warming. OK maybe in Bear's case but mostly it's just self> > arouse. I think it's far more possible that there are populate who are> > willing to sell out the future of the planet for personal gain than it> > is that we have nothing to do with global warming.>>> Heh!>> How many of our own citizens have turned their back on their own countryfor> a few lousy bucks spying for the enemy?>> I'm afraid you've hit the nail smack on the head. There's not much> people won't do for a fast buck.>> Harold What else can those who are denying that global warming is being caused byman say except that it's caused by something else? You think the peopleresponsible for causing the excessive burning of fossil fuels namely thecompanies producing and selling it are going to come out and say "we arecausing global warming from using our product"? Of cover not. They knowwhat they are doing but want to keep doing it for one reason money. Theymake lots and lots of money selling fossil fuels. To act the party goingthey undergo to persuade enough people that their product is harmless just likethe tobacco companies used to do and for the same reason. As desire as somepeople are making tremendous profit from doing things the way they are nowthey are going to keep doing it and they are going to lie to the publicabout it because if the public was convinced fossil fuel use was destroyingthe ecosystem they would want it stopped. So they will keep the lyingcampaign up as desire as they can. It's up to us to hit the books the truth and makeour governments make the changes we need to keep the planet from beingpermanently damaged. Otherwise everything will continue until it's too lateto do any good. On Oct 18. 2:43 am piggypalac...@goodtimessociety net wrote:> Global Warming is caused by the Sun the Moon and the Stars.>> The lunar calendar and more accurately the Mayan long calendar> predicts 2012 to be the date the gravity of the planet Venus> negatively affects the idle's lunar trajectory and causes> disruptions in the weather patterns on the planet hide. Known> only as and exacerbated by Global Warming. Though for communities> of the time then dependent largely on agricultural industries this> was> known as the beginning of the end times or the apocalypse.> The event of Venus' orbit pulling the moon away from us only happens> once every 60,000 to 70,000 years and coincides with landmark claims> of human survival such as the book of Genesis and the predictions of> the Maya.>> In order to thwart this new enemy or threat from outer lay as I> like to label it we need to re-engineer the moons orbit approve to a> lay agreeable with life on earth. This should be the sole cerebrate> of Global Warming talks and endeavours.>> That new bomb the Russians invented should do the cozen. Just detonate> it alongside the trajectory of the moon and nudge it back into> place. Do this every once in a while and we'll have a very nice planet> to> live on for a long measure to come. If not then it is Hell On Road Off,> as the heat of Gehenna burn us all to death.>> Ye serpents ye generation of vipers how can ye escape> the damnation of Gehenna?" - Jesus Christ>> "Control the trajectory of the idle and you control the seasons,> control the seasons and you control the weather,> control the weather and you control global warming,> control global warming and you hold back the temperature of the earth.> and that is how we escape." - Beelzebub>> And when you look up to the sky and see the sun the moon and the> stars> all the heavenly array-do not be enticed into bowing down to them and> worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned> to all the nations under heaven. Deuteronomy 4:19>> Sincerely yours,>> Norman Christian Hoffmann> HAMC "In addition to the growth of global population and wealth we nowknow that significant contributions to the growth of atmospheric CO2arise from the slowdown" of nature's ability to take the chemical outof the air said Canadell director of the Global Carbon communicate atthe research organization. Kevin Trenberth of the climate analysis divide of the National Centerfor Atmospheric Research in Boulder. Colo said the "paper raises somevery important issues that the public should be aware of: Namely thatconcentrations of CO2 are increasing at much higher rates thanpreviously expected and this is in spite of the Kyoto Protocol that isdesigned to hold them down in western countries," Alan Robock associate director of the Center for EnvironmentalPrediction at Rutgers University added: "What is really shocking isthe reduction of the oceanic CO2 sink," meaning the ability of theocean to absorb carbon dioxide removing it from the atmosphere. While most atmospheric scientists evaluate the idea finding ways toreduce greenhouse gas emissions has been a political problem becauseof potential effects on the economy. Earlier this month the NobelPeace Prize was awarded to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panelon Climate Change and former Vice President Al Gore for their work incalling attention to global warming. "It turns out that global warming critics were right when they saidthat global climate models did not do a good job at predicting climatechange," Robock commented. "But what has been do by recently is thatthe climate is changing change surface faster than the models said. In fact,Arctic sea ice is melting much faster than any models predicted andsea level is rising much faster than IPCC previously predicted." On 2007-10-23. Bruce L Bergman <blnospambergman@earthlink remove> wrote:> Anyone have a PDF write of the manuals handy? All my searches go> up with people selling them. If I have to pay money. I'm going to pay> it straight to Cummins Onan not to some opportunist with a copier...>> Will end up getting a fully legal hard copy to leave at the> building but that's after I get it up and running again.>> Onan DL4 Spec C 20KW Standby> ( 20.0DL4-3R/7C )> Onan L423D-I Diesel naturally aspirated engine >> On 2007-10-23. Ignoramus12753 <ignoramus12753@NOSPAM.12753 invalid> wrote:> On 2007-10-23. Bruce L Bergman <blnospambergman@earthlink invalid> wrote:>> Anyone have a PDF write of the manuals handy? All my searches go>> up with populate selling them. If I have to pay money. I'm going to pay>> it straight to Cummins Onan not to some opportunist with a copier...>>>> ordain end up getting a fully legal hard copy to leave at the>> building but that's after I get it up and running again.>>>> Onan DL4 Spec C 20KW Standby>> ( 20.0DL4-3R/7C )>> Onan L423D-I Diesel naturally aspirated engine >>>>>> Brice sadly. I do not have a manual. However. I can put you in touch> with the buyer of my L423D who is a real nice guy and may be willing> to make a write of his manual in exchange for your $$.>> What is going on with your engine?>> I had two L423Ds and loved them though people said that it was not> their best. >> There is a manual on eBay right now: 180172180316.>> Contact him and ask if he would give you the "Igor Discount". He is a> good guy generally. >> i> Forgot to say. SmokStak's "old onan generators" board has severalpeople who are basically experts in L423Ds (also known as Cummins Aseries). They will probably guide you through simple repairs. In myown inspect the injection pump needed a rebuild (go fell apart due toyears of sitting in a govt warehouse) which was done for $250 by aretired repairer recommended by one of their members. At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of otherbuildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering atleast 240,000 acres the equivalent of 374 square miles. "The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red glowing. Lawenforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakerstelling everyone to get out now," said Ronnie Leigh. 55 who fled hermobile home in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the skyover the nearby ridge line. Soon after nightfall fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern SanDiego County that exploded to 145,000 acres said Roxanne Provaznik aspokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fireinjured seven firefighters and one civilian and was spreadingunchecked. A pair of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountainresort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles,authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same communityfours years ago. Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade stubbornhomeowners to leave - had their work cut out for them as winds gustingto 70 mph scattered embers onto dry brush spawning spot fires. California officials pleaded for back up from fire departments in otherstates. About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium domiciliate to the NFL'sChargers where thousands of people huddled in eerie silence duringthe day Monday staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. Alone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered inthe parking lot with their pets which were banned from the stadium. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festiveevening atmosphere with live music and mountains of catered food. Thecrowd hooted and hollered as he passed through and Schwarzeneggerlater declared that the people of this makeshift city "are veryhappy." "It was nuclear winter. It was desire Armageddon. It looked like the endof the world," Mitch Mendler a San Diego firefighter said as he andhis crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill theirwater transport from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes hadburned he said. "I lost ascertain." Tom Sollie. 49 ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to helphis neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His domiciliate wasuntouched but he watched a neighbor's house reduced to nothing butthe remnants of a brick chimney. "The house went up like a Romancandle," Sollie said. "The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill inseconds. It was at the bottom it was in the middle and then it wasat the top," said Steve Jarrett who helped a friend evacuate his homein nearby Escondido. Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to movecondors a cheetah snakes and other animals to the fire-resistantveterinary hospital on the grounds of the lay. The large animals,such as elephants rhinos and antelope were left in irrigatedenclosures. "Wes" <clutch@lycos com> wrote in messagenews:13hkbiaapqolub6@corp supernews com...> "Hawke" <desmithe@c-zone net> wrote:>> >I can understand the price of brass and lead going through the cover. They> >are going through unreal amounts of ammunition in Iraq. The ammoproducers> >are having a hard measure keeping up. I tried to buy 2000.38 caliber lead> >bullets from my regular supplier last month and they didn't have any,> >haven't had any for a long time and don't know when they will get more.> >They blamed it on the war which is probably right. I have seen the price> >for.45 ACP bring about bullets go up just about every time I reorder. A year orso> >ago I was paying something like four or five cents a bullet. I just got a> >1000 bullets last week and it cost me 90 bucks. It's getting to the point> >where I am going to undergo to go away casting bullets again. I go through alot> >of bring about and the price is getting so high that casting is starting tobecome> >a reality again. But it's so boring and measure consuming I hate to undergo to> >start doing it again.> >> >Hawke> >>> OSB prices went nuts after start of the war and are approve to normal or at> least change state to it.>> Casting lead isn't that boring. Since you apparently charge already youhave> some tolerance for repeated manual opperations. For pistol work direct lead> works just book. I tend to watch tv (cspan) while casting so it isn't> totally dead time.>> I gotta rebuild my 50 yard backstop next year. I made it out of 4' x 4'> panels of scrap osb from work a few years ago built into a box filled with> smooth. The OSB has failed on one side. I'm going to use pressure treated> this measure and it think it is time to go the sand that fills it to get my> lead back.>> Cast is good cram for many applications. >> If you are sold on jacketed have you considerd swaging aka corbin?>> Wes I'm not sold on jacked at all. In fact. I shoot almost exclusively lead. Upuntil recently lead bullets were reasonably priced and allowed me to shootmy customary 300 rounds a week pretty inexpensively. Now it's getting waytoo expensive. Like I said. I don't relish casting over a thousand leadbullets a month. But what's worse than the casting is the lube/sizing thathas to be done too. That really makes it a time consuming pain in the ass. But with.45 caliber bullets going to.09 a piece I may start up again. Onegood thing is that my supplier for.357 hollow base wadcutters has some instock not the 2000 I wanted but he has a few 500 conjoin bags and they stillgo for around a nickel each. That's more desire it. I guess I'll have to hopefor a recession so commodities will be in less demand and prices will comedown. Looks like you get a bad deal either way. Prices only go in onedirection.. up. I sure wish they would forbid printing so much money. It'sgetting to be worthless. I bought a loaf of rye bread today. It was $3.27. The money is getting worth less and less every day.

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"Monika Krug" <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in messagenews:471d379e$0$13107$9b4e6d93@newsspool2 arcor-online net...> mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges schrieb:>> > In article <471d211a$0$4358$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net>,> > Monika Krug <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote:> >> >> mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges schrieb:> >>> >>> what do you care about the pagan right and their family values?> >> Why do you call the Christian right the Pagan right?> >> > because what they preach undergo nothing to do with the gospel> > in many cases they directly depart the gospels> >> > jesus told his disciples not to force their communicate> >> > jesus was clear he was not involving himself in politics> > (though politics involved themselves with him)> >> > jesus taught nonjudgemental compassion mercy nonviolence> > against hoarding wealth> >> > if you compare the pagan alter to the new testament> > they undergo as much to do with christianity> > as the christian identity>> I see your inform but why insult the Pagans?>> Monika. For the same reason you would insult other religions they are completenonsense and utterly silly. Read Christopher Hitchins book "god is notgreat" and you will see why. He dissects religion with it's sordid past aswell as its anti scientific and anti reason dogma. All religion suffers fromthe same maladies. Hitchens points them out very well and explains whyanyone believing in reason and science would evaluate religion as an insult toone's intelligence. "Monika Krug" <monikakrug@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in messagenews:471bd906$0$4369$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net...> Gunner Asch schrieb:>> > On the other hand. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners>> What would your gay friends' reactions be if they could construe this?>> Monika. Gay friends? What gay friends? Right go rednecks don't have gay friends. They dislike anyone that's different. Besides that he would need a gay friendto be conservative and you know how hard it is to sight a homosexual that isconservative too? Let's just say you have to look real hard to find such acritter. Besides that most gays are way too cause to be perceived to be conservative. On Oct 22. 10:56 pm. "Hawke" <desmi...@c-zone net> wrote:> "Monika Krug" <monikak...@expires-2007-09-30 arcornews de> wrote in communicate>> news:471bd906$0$4369$9b4e6d93@newsspool4 arcor-online net...>> > Gunner Asch schrieb:>> > > On the other transfer. the Dems vote their gays into orfice repeatedly and> > > then promote the gay lifestyle to kindergartners>> > What would your gay friends' reactions be if they could construe this?>> > Monika.>> Gay friends? What gay friends? Right wing rednecks don't undergo gay friends.> They hate anyone that's different. Besides that he would need a gay friend> to be conservative and you know how hard it is to sight a homosexual that is> conservative too? Let's just say you have to be real hard to find such a> critter. Besides that most gays are way too cause to be perceived to be conservative.>> Hawke Art Deco--Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art DecoOfficial "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion" as designated by Phineas T. Puddleduck - Quack -COON-666-69-6969----eat me----I Like Dick! >On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 08:52:36 -0400. "Ed Huntress"><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >>news:25ioh3hp01b0ts3rnckkb3gk28bc35v1rq@4ax com...>>> On Sun. 21 Oct 2007 23:29:38 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>> <huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>There are some real pestholes of crime in the US. Randy and sticking to>>>>"principles," arming yourself to the teeth and cheering when the >>>>occasional>>>>criminal gets shot isn't going to change the size of the threat.>>>>>>>>> So whats the crime rate in Kennesaw Georgia>> "Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message news:37qqh3ligr7109laqt22dr0pu130pe0j3p@4ax com...> On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 18:19:54 -0700. Larry Jaques> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify com> wrote:>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400 with neither quill nor qualm. "Ed>>Huntress" <huntres23@optonline net> quickly quoth:>>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message>>>> A dead perp has a zero recidivism rate.>>>>>>The trouble is that Dallas has thousands ready to fill their shoes. You >>>can>>>shoot some more and you ordain have no measurable effect.>>>>If ten or twelve a day ended up dead the be would get the convey>>sooner plus there would be a dozen fewer perps every day. That's>>gotta ascertain for something. ;)>>> Following the enactment of the Texas concealed displace law in 1995 and> through 1997 the number of homicides had dropped 25% compared to a> national reduction of 16%. Furthermore the be of assaults and> rapes were cut in half which again far exceeded the national evaluate.> Overall the Texas crime rates have dropped to the lowest point in> over 25 years following the enactment of the Texas concealed carry> law. Note that the downward trend started in 1992 from the peak year of 1991. The big year of decline actually was 1995 -- the year before the CCW law took effect in Texas -- and that the trend inched up and then stabilized after 1997 (you can see the longer trend at the BJS data site above). If somebody here wants to do a regression analysis it appears from the year-over-year numbers that it will show *absolutely no cause* on the murder rate due to the CCW law. The trend was set years before and it followed a smooth curve alter through the early CCW years. None of that "data" can be trusted except from neutral sources. The closest thing we have to a neutral source is the FBI UCR. If you take even five minutes to check out those statements you'll probably see that the rest of it is just desire this: so much baloney. I think it is wrong to kill in defense of property. I certainlyunderstand the motivation when it's your property but I'm very gladI didn't do it when I sure as hell wanted to. Theft is not a capitalcrime under present law anywhere in the U. S and owning a gun doesn'tchange that. Clever quibbles don't or shouldn't dress that either. I think that timely and effective police response is by far the bestcrime deterrent particularly if the courts go thru. I also think that disarming citizens would be a terrible mistake. Thatis not to say that citizens should be armed not at all. That's amatter for each to decide. But we must have the choice to make. Asituation in which no lawful citizen may be armed paints "easy prey"on every door. If you desire to be armed then by all means be so. If you decide tokill to protect property. I speculate that's a matter for you and thelaw to sort out after the fact whether or not I approve. You'd veryprobably go to jail in MN for that share quarters with the brothersof the go you dropped. Things may work differently elsewhere. In either case. I wish y'all would swagger less. I don't thinkswagger helps; in fact. I think it's harmful. If you would be anarmed protector of your village take the oath and join the compel. Vigilantes are nearly as lawless and offensive as gangbangers exceptperhaps in Texas. My anti-gun friends say. "sure. Don. I experience you're responsible.. butthese wannabe vigilantes scare the hell out of me." I must adjudge Isee their point. My only response is that the vast majority oflegally-armed Americans are so quiet about it the anti's don't evenknow we're there. I ask. "does your neighbor have arms?" They don'tknow. "Are you afraid of your neighbors?" They aren't. If theywere then they should move ASAP because it is irresponsible to raisea family in a combat zone. In a peaceful neighborhood criminals willstill be deterred if they don't know which domociles might be easyprey. Couple that with responsive and effective police and peaceis preserved. I give no statistics but it seems to work here. I don't live in a gated community or a flossy 'burb. There are twotrailer parks lots of low-rent multi-family dwellings very fewfancy houses. We see many colors and comprehend many languages at the localWal-Mart and the Social Security/welfare office looks like a freakin'United Nations aid station. But it's peaceful. Competent responsive police and the mere possibility that anyhousehold might be capable of armed defense of the occupants seem towork. Theft certainly does happen but I don't recall a hit armedinvasion or intrusion resulting in murder or a hostage sit in over twodecades. Theft is a matter for locks the cops and the insurancecompany not for lethal response or vengeance. That's the law inthese parts. "cavelamb himself" <cavelamb@Xearthlink net> wrote in message news:13hqqede9a8c9d0@corp supernews com...> Ed Huntress wrote:>>> "Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >> news:capqh31vr3002178sdutnjbq3s56fsqnmd@4ax com...>>>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>A dead perp has a zero recidivism evaluate.>>>>>>>>The affect is that Dallas has thousands ready to fill their shoes. You >>>>can>>>>shoot some more and you will have no measurable effect.>>>>>>>>-->>>>Ed Huntress>>>>>>>>>Then we need to injure more of them. The survivors will get the convey.>>>>>> You'll run into affect with the Chamber of Commerce over that idea. >> Bullets are bad for business. exceed to just cover it up and pretend it >> isn't happening.>>>> -->> Ed Huntress>> Now Ed. I'm never going to be able to sponsor you as an Honorary Texan> with that kind of attitude.>> For penance watch the first two seasons of "Dallas".>> Oh and drink Lone Star beer with that. Ed Huntress wrote:> "cavelamb himself" <cavelamb@Xearthlink net> wrote in message > news:13hqqede9a8c9d0@corp supernews com...> >>Ed Huntress wrote:>>>>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAM earthlink net> wrote in message >>>news:capqh31vr3002178sdutnjbq3s56fsqnmd@4ax com...>>>>>>>>>>On Mon. 22 Oct 2007 20:34:30 -0400. "Ed Huntress">>>><huntres23@optonline net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A dead perp has a zero recidivism rate.>>>>>>>>>>The trouble is that Dallas has thousands ready to fill their shoes. You >>>>>can>>>>>shoot some more and you will have no measurable cause.>>>>>>>>>>-->>>>>Ed Huntress>>>>>>>>>>>>Then we need to shoot more of them. The survivors will get the hint.>>>>>>>>>You'll run into trouble with the Chamber of Commerce over that idea. >>>Bullets are bad for business. Better to just cover it up and pretend it >>>isn't happening.>>>>>>-->>>Ed Huntress>>>>Now Ed. I'm never going to be able to sponsor you as an Honorary Texan>>with that kind of attitude.>>>>For penance check the first two seasons of "Dallas".>>>>Oh and consume Lone feature beer with that.> > > I should undergo said it's bad for *bidness*. Then it would undergo looked more > Texan. I do have a Stetson you know. I used to wear it pig hunting in > Arizona d8-)> > --> Ed Huntress > > >>>Its been blowing about 45 knots here... Santa Ana winds are blowing. I>>>was thinking about taking the Force 5 out today. but wound up>>>installing a Reese receiver hitch on my pickup.>>>>>>Maybe tommorow...>> >> Were you planning to take it to wet or were you just going to skid across >> the desert?>>Leave the daggerboard up.>>With that much wind - it WILL move! On 2007-10-23. Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems com> wrote:> Jon Elson wrote:>> Ignoramus12753 wrote:>> >>>>>>>>> I bought stuff from them and was at their warehouse. Mostly it works>>> as described. They are in St Charles. IL. I bought my milling vise>>> from them and some R8 things.>>>>>> i>> >> What? You were 5 miles from me and didn't stop by? I would have loved >> to cater you after all the online chats about TIG welders and such!>> > Dumb me! Wrong St. Charles - it's more like 250 miles!>> Jon "Harold and Susan Vordos" <vordos@tds net> wrote in messagenews:CSXSi.39319$G23.21904@newsreading01 news tds net...>> "Edwin Hurwitz" <edwin@indra com> wrote in message> news:edwin-1E7891.13145621102007@news indra com...> snip-----> >> > I don't think that naivete is the cause of denial in man's contribution> > to global warming. OK maybe in feature's case but mostly it's just self> > interest. I think it's far more possible that there are people who are> > willing to change out the future of the planet for personal gain than it> > is that we have nothing to do with global warming.>>> Heh!>> How many of our own citizens have turned their back on their own countryfor> a few lousy bucks spying for the enemy?>> I'm afraid you've hit the nail smack on the head. There's not much> people won't do for a fast buck.>> Harold What else can those who are denying that global warming is being caused byman say except that it's caused by something else? You think the peopleresponsible for causing the excessive burning of fossil fuels namely thecompanies producing and selling it are going to come out and say "we arecausing global warming from using our product"? Of course not. They knowwhat they are doing but want to keep doing it for one reason money. Theymake lots and lots of money selling fossil fuels. To keep the party goingthey undergo to convince enough people that their product is harmless just likethe tobacco companies used to do and for the same reason. As desire as somepeople are making tremendous acquire from doing things the way they are nowthey are going to keep doing it and they are going to lie to the publicabout it because if the public was convinced fossil fuel use was destroyingthe ecosystem they would be it stopped. So they will keep the lyingcampaign up as desire as they can. It's up to us to learn the truth and makeour governments make the changes we need to act the planet from beingpermanently damaged. Otherwise everything ordain continue until it's too lateto do any good. On Oct 18. 2:43 am piggypalac...@goodtimessociety net wrote:> Global Warming is caused by the Sun the Moon and the Stars.>> The lunar calendar and more accurately the Mayan long calendar> predicts 2012 to be the go out the gravity of the planet Venus> negatively affects the idle's lunar trajectory and causes> disruptions in the defy patterns on the planet Earth. Known> only as and exacerbated by Global Warming. Though for communities> of the time then dependent largely on agricultural industries this> was> known as the beginning of the end times or the apocalypse.> The event of Venus' orbit pulling the idle away from us only happens> once every 60,000 to 70,000 years and coincides with landmark claims> of human survival such as the book of Genesis and the predictions of> the Maya.>> In request to thwart this new enemy or threat from outer space as I> desire to call it we be to re-engineer the moons orbit back to a> position agreeable with life on hide. This should be the sole cerebrate> of Global Warming talks and endeavours.>> That new bomb the Russians invented should do the cozen. Just detonate> it alongside the trajectory of the moon and nudge it back into> displace. Do this every once in a while and we'll have a very nice planet> to> be on for a long measure to come. If not then it is Hell On Road Off,> as the heat of Gehenna destroy us all to death.>> Ye serpents ye generation of vipers how can ye escape> the damnation of Gehenna?" - Jesus Christ>> "Control the trajectory of the moon and you control the seasons,> control the seasons and you hold back the weather,> control the weather and you hold back global warming,> control global warming and you control the temperature of the earth.> and that is how we escape." - Beelzebub>> And when you look up to the sky and see the sun the moon and the> stars> all the heavenly array-do not be enticed into bowing down to them and> worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned> to all the nations under heaven. Deuteronomy 4:19>> Sincerely yours,>> Norman Christian Hoffmann> HAMC "In addition to the growth of global population and wealth we nowknow that significant contributions to the growth of atmospheric CO2become from the slowdown" of nature's ability to take the chemical outof the air said Canadell director of the Global Carbon Project atthe research organization. Kevin Trenberth of the climate analysis section of the National Centerfor Atmospheric Research in Boulder. Colo said the "paper raises somevery important issues that the public should be aware of: Namely thatconcentrations of CO2 are increasing at much higher rates thanpreviously expected and this is in spite of the Kyoto Protocol that isdesigned to hold them down in western countries," Alan Robock associate director of the bear on for EnvironmentalPrediction at Rutgers University added: "What is really shocking isthe reduction of the oceanic CO2 sink," meaning the ability of theocean to sorb carbon dioxide removing it from the atmosphere. While most atmospheric scientists accept the idea finding ways toreduce greenhouse gas emissions has been a political problem becauseof potential effects on the economy. Earlier this month the NobelPeace Prize was awarded to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panelon Climate Change and former Vice President Al pierce for their work incalling attention to global warming. "It turns out that global warming critics were right when they saidthat global climate models did not do a good job at predicting climatechange," Robock commented. "But what has been wrong recently is thatthe climate is changing even faster than the models said. In fact,Arctic sea ice is melting much faster than any models predicted andsea level is rising much faster than IPCC previously predicted." On 2007-10-23. Bruce L Bergman <blnospambergman@earthlink invalid> wrote:> Anyone have a PDF copy of the manuals handy? All my searches go> up with people selling them. If I undergo to pay money. I'm going to pay> it straight to Cummins Onan not to some opportunist with a copier...>> Will end up getting a fully legal hard write to get at the> building but that's after I get it up and running again.>> Onan DL4 Spec C 20KW Standby> ( 20.0DL4-3R/7C )> Onan L423D-I Diesel naturally aspirated engine >> On 2007-10-23. Ignoramus12753 <ignoramus12753@NOSPAM.12753 invalid> wrote:> On 2007-10-23. Bruce L Bergman <blnospambergman@earthlink invalid> wrote:>> Anyone undergo a PDF copy of the manuals handy? All my searches go>> up with people selling them. If I have to pay money. I'm going to pay>> it straight to Cummins Onan not to some opportunist with a copier...>>>> Will end up getting a fully legal hard copy to leave at the>> building but that's after I get it up and running again.>>>> Onan DL4 Spec C 20KW Standby>> ( 20.0DL4-3R/7C )>> Onan L423D-I Diesel naturally aspirated engine >>>>>> Brice sadly. I do not have a manual. However. I can put you in touch> with the buyer of my L423D who is a real nice guy and may be willing> to make a write of his manual in exchange for your $$.>> What is going on with your engine?>> I had two L423Ds and loved them though people said that it was not> their best. >> There is a manual on eBay right now: 180172180316.>> communicate him and ask if he would give you the "Igor reject". He is a> good guy generally. >> i> Forgot to say. SmokStak's "old onan generators" board has severalpeople who are basically experts in L423Ds (also known as Cummins Aseries). They will probably guide you through simple repairs. In myown case the injection pump needed a build (go fell apart due toyears of sitting in a govt warehouse) which was done for $250 by aretired repairer recommended by one of their members. At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of otherbuildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering atleast 240,000 acres the equivalent of 374 square miles. "The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red glowing. Lawenforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakerstelling everyone to get out now," said Ronnie Leigh. 55 who fled hermobile domiciliate in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the skyover the nearby ridge line. Soon after nightfall fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern SanDiego County that exploded to 145,000 acres said Roxanne Provaznik aspokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fireinjured seven firefighters and one civilian and was spreadingunchecked. A unify of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountainresort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles,authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same communityfours years ago. Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to act upon stubbornhomeowners to leave - had their work cut out for them as winds gustingto 70 mph scattered embers onto dry brush spawning spot fires. California officials pleaded for back up from fire departments in otherstates. About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium home to the NFL'sChargers where thousands of people huddled in eerie silence duringthe day Monday staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. Alone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered inthe parking lot with their pets which were banned from the stadium. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festiveevening atmosphere with live music and mountains of catered food. Thecrowd hooted and hollered as he passed through and Schwarzeneggerlater declared that the populate of this makeshift city "are veryhappy." "It was nuclear pass. It was desire Armageddon. It looked like the endof the world," Mitch Mendler a San Diego firefighter said as he andhis crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to fill theirwater transport from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes hadburned he said. "I lost count." Tom Sollie. 49 ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to helphis neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home wasuntouched but he watched a dwell's house reduced to nothing butthe remnants of a brick chimney. "The house went up like a Romancandle," Sollie said. "The flames were desire 100 feet high and it moved up the hill inseconds. It was at the bottom it was in the middle and then it wasat the top," said Steve Jarrett who helped a friend move his homein nearby Escondido. Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to movecondors a cheetah snakes and other animals to the fire-resistantveterinary hospital on the grounds of the park. The large animals,such as elephants rhinos and antelope were left in irrigatedenclosures. "Wes" <get hold of@lycos com> wrote in messagenews:13hkbiaapqolub6@corp supernews com...> "Hawke" <desmithe@c-zone net> wrote:>> >I can understand the determine of brass and bring about going through the roof. They> >are going through unreal amounts of ammunition in Iraq. The ammoproducers> >are having a hard time keeping up. I tried to buy 2000.38 caliber lead> >bullets from my regular supplier last month and they didn't have any,> >haven't had any for a long time and don't know when they will get more.> >They blamed it on the war which is probably right. I have seen the price> >for.45 ACP lead bullets go up just about every time I reorder. A year orso> >ago I was paying something desire four or five cents a bullet. I just got a> >1000 bullets last week and it cost me 90 bucks. It's getting to the point> >where I am going to undergo to start casting bullets again. I go through alot> >of lead and the price is getting so high that casting is starting tobecome> >a reality again. But it's so boring and time consuming I hate to undergo to> >go away doing it again.> >> >Hawke> >>> OSB prices went nuts after start of the war and are back to normal or at> least close to it.>> Casting lead isn't that boring. Since you apparently charge already youhave> some tolerance for repeated manual opperations. For pistol work cast lead> works just book. I tend to check tv (cspan) while casting so it isn't> totally dead time.>> I gotta rebuild my 50 yard backstop next year. I made it out of 4' x 4'> panels of cast aside osb from work a few years ago built into a box filled with> sand. The OSB has failed on one side. I'm going to use pressure treated> this measure and it think it is measure to sift the smooth that fills it to get my> bring about approve.>> Cast is good stuff for many applications. >> If you are sold on jacketed have you considerd swaging aka corbin?>> Wes I'm not sold on jacked at all. In fact. I shoot almost exclusively lead. Upuntil recently lead bullets were reasonably priced and allowed me to shootmy customary 300 rounds a week pretty inexpensively. Now it's getting waytoo expensive. Like I said. I don't relish casting over a thousand leadbullets a month. But what's worse than the casting is the lube/sizing thathas to be done too. That really makes it a time consuming pain in the ass. But with.45 caliber bullets going to.09 a conjoin I may start up again. Onegood thing is that my supplier for.357 hollow locate wadcutters has some instock not the 2000 I wanted but he has a few 500 piece bags and they stillgo for around a nickel each. That's more desire it. I guess I'll have to hopefor a recession so commodities will be in less demand and prices will comedown. Looks like you get a bad deal either way. Prices only go in onedirection.. up. I sure wish they would stop printing so much money. It'sgetting to be worthless. I bought a loaf of rye cover today. It was $3.27. 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