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Having a serious problem with Vista and I'm hoping someone can help me. Not really sure to how explain it but here goes:I've tried using system regenerate to load up prior restore points up to from about a week ago and it has not corrected my problem. I cannot execute any programs as Administrator (access denied) though I'm logged in as administrator. Task Manager has probably 95% of all services showing as Stopped even many that I believe are pretty critical services. I try to tell it to start the services and it says access denied. I cannot run any type of Vista control adorn utilities such as device manager etc except in safe mode. When I try to run them in normal mode. I don't get any kind of error messages.. just nothing. Like they try to run but just get hung up. Doesn't freeze my computer but the "hourglass" wait thing just ticks away like it's trying to execute. My network connection icon on the taskbar shows that I'm not connected to any networks (red x across it) however I am most definitely connected and even typing this post with this computer. Security Center icon isn't there. be OneCare icon isn't there (Yes. I do bid to this service). I've uninstalled OneCare while in safemode (only way I could do it). Windows Defender won't load either. Uggghhh... I'm so frustrated it probably isn't helping me in trying to describe this silly problem that just seems to have started out of the blue. Can you get to your Event Viewer (eventvwr msc if you have to get there directly) even if in safe mode and if so what does it say on startup when it tries to start the stopped services? _________________There's no cool pic in this sig and no funny insult to another board member. Yeah. I don't know why you're reading it either. Bregor wrote: Can you get to your Event Viewer (eventvwr msc if you undergo to get there directly) change surface if in safe mode and if so what does it say on startup when it tries to go away the stopped services? Not seeing anything about the stopped services. Application and Services logs: 0And nope.. can't run change surface viewer except safe mode You can jump through hoops for a week or you an format reinstall patch service pack 1 plus misc updates and get some protection like norton panda mcafee etc. I suggest format and instal. _________________Graevis Best Damn *Retired* Cleric Glendar - Paladin *Retired*Maestar - Cabalist *Retired*Grevis - Sorcerer Greivis - ClericFallen Souls You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot say to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot choose in polls in this forum

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Having a serious problem with Vista and I'm hoping someone can help me. Not really sure to how explain it but here goes:I've tried using system restore to load up prior regenerate points up to from about a week ago and it has not corrected my problem. I cannot kill any programs as Administrator (access denied) though I'm logged in as administrator. Task Manager has probably 95% of all services showing as Stopped even many that I believe are pretty critical services. I try to express it to start the services and it says access denied. I cannot run any type of Vista hold back panel utilities such as device manager etc object in safe mode. When I try to run them in normal mode. I don't get any kind of error messages.. just nothing. Like they try to run but just get hung up. Doesn't stand still my computer but the "hourglass" wait thing just ticks away like it's trying to execute. My network connection icon on the taskbar shows that I'm not connected to any networks (red x across it) however I am most definitely connected and even typing this post with this computer. Security Center icon isn't there. be OneCare icon isn't there (Yes. I do bid to this service). I've uninstalled OneCare while in safemode (only way I could do it). Windows Defender won't fill either. Uggghhh... I'm so frustrated it probably isn't helping me in trying to describe this silly problem that just seems to have started out of the blue. Can you get to your Event Viewer (eventvwr msc if you have to get there directly) even if in safe mode and if so what does it say on startup when it tries to start the stopped services? _________________There's no cool pic in this sig and no funny insult to another board member. Yeah. I don't know why you're reading it either. Bregor wrote: Can you get to your Event Viewer (eventvwr msc if you have to get there directly) even if in safe mode and if so what does it say on startup when it tries to start the stopped services? Not seeing anything about the stopped services. Application and Services logs: 0And nope.. can't run even viewer except safe mode You can jump through hoops for a week or you an format reinstall patch function pack 1 plus misc updates and get some protection like norton panda mcafee etc. I suggest format and reinstall. _________________Graevis Best Damn *Retired* Cleric Glendar - Paladin *Retired*Maestar - Cabalist *Retired*Grevis - Sorcerer Greivis - ClericFallen Souls You cannot affix new topics in this forumYou cannot reply to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum

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Having a serious problem with Vista and I'm hoping someone can help me. Not really sure to how explain it but here goes:I've tried using system restore to load up prior regenerate points up to from about a week ago and it has not corrected my problem. I cannot execute any programs as Administrator (access denied) though I'm logged in as administrator. Task Manager has probably 95% of all services showing as Stopped change surface many that I accept are pretty critical services. I try to tell it to go away the services and it says access denied. I cannot run any write of Vista hold back panel utilities such as device manager etc except in safe mode. When I try to run them in normal mode. I don't get any kind of error messages.. just nothing. Like they try to run but just get hung up. Doesn't freeze my computer but the "hourglass" wait thing just ticks away desire it's trying to execute. My network connection icon on the taskbar shows that I'm not connected to any networks (red x across it) however I am most definitely connected and even typing this post with this computer. Security Center icon isn't there. Live OneCare icon isn't there (Yes. I do subscribe to this service). I've uninstalled OneCare while in safemode (only way I could do it). Windows Defender won't fill either. Uggghhh... I'm so frustrated it probably isn't helping me in trying to describe this silly problem that just seems to have started out of the blue. Can you get to your Event Viewer (eventvwr msc if you have to get there directly) change surface if in safe mode and if so what does it say on startup when it tries to start the stopped services? _________________There's no cool pic in this sig and no funny bruise to another come in member. Yeah. I don't know why you're reading it either. Bregor wrote: Can you get to your Event Viewer (eventvwr msc if you have to get there directly) even if in safe mode and if so what does it say on startup when it tries to start the stopped services? Not seeing anything about the stopped services. Application and Services logs: 0And nope.. can't run change surface viewer except safe mode You can jump through hoops for a week or you an format reinstall patch service pack 1 plus misc updates and get some protection like norton panda mcafee etc. I suggest format and reinstall. _________________Graevis beat Damn *Retired* Cleric Glendar - Paladin *Retired*Maestar - Cabalist *Retired*Grevis - Sorcerer Greivis - ClericFallen Souls You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot reply to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum

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where she states that the Voices are different aspects of the Godhead- one the vengeful God of the Old Testament which is in contradistinction to the other- the merciful Christ of the New Testament. The motif of the 'Four Daughters of God' (Justicia. Misericordia. Veritas and Pax) is well-known in medieval literature and in my opinion the most likely source of inspiration for Tolkien's 'voices'. These 'Daughters of God' act respectively as prosecutor and advocate for the human soul in lie of God's seat of judgment. It is typically Justicia and Misericordia who come to blows ; the one advocates the severe punishment of the human soul for its sins the other pleads for forgiveness and pity. Such a scenario fully satisifactorily explains the situation as depicted in and does not have to believe on the rather heterodox idea of multiple divine personalities. It's little things desire this that alter me wonder about attaching too strongly religious implications to readings such as this. Exactly whose responsibility was it to have worry's heart 'answer properly'. Or for that be to have his head 'screwed on tight enough' ? Niggle's creator? Niggle? The experiences he went through? From that standpoint. I would say we are blessed (or cursed) with certain abilities and limitations. And it's our responsbility to make the best of them. It would be if Niggle started with less of certain abilities should he be made to experience for them? Should somebody desire Tompkins for example be carried off to whatever displace covered in glory? I'm not sure I want to be a member of that religion! (speaking of which aren't Tompkins and Atkins choose of late stand-ins for those two voices?) Nonetheless I think Honegger has hit in the bear on. Insofar as one can find an RL source parallel for Tolkien's own version I evaluate the "Four Daughters' and particularly Justicia and Misericordia are correctly in the close in. In another thread I discuss Honegger's comments about using a 'medieval approach' in the chew over of Tolkien's work. The fact is Tolkien's object was far more warn to medieval imagery than ours and thus we often. I guess miss the actual analogies that he was making. In one sense it doesn't matter- the text speaks to different readers in different ways. On other occasions a clearer understanding of what authorial intent Although now I go to think of it shouldn't the "four daughters" actually be the Cardinal Virtues: Justice. Temperance. Courage and Prudence (or Wisdom)? I recollect them in places like Giotto's Scrovegni Chapel in Padua. Mercy does not appear in these lists. Interesting again. Medieval scholarship is not my forte although it is an area of great interest to me. I was one of those benighted souls who specialised in Early Modern History and Literature- so the 16th and 17th century are more my ballpark although I sat at the feet of friends who were Medieval experts. I rather guess that you are correct and that in England at least the Four Daughters were part of the morality tradition. (I wonder if they were featured at all in the York Mystery Plays). But Honegger himself is a medievalist and I think we can reasonably rely on his judgment in the be. c.1425 the Four daughters of God- as depicted by Honegger - enage in debate and Mercy wins. This is the oldest surviving morality play in English drama. As far as I can make out the Four Daughters did appear in the York Mystery plays. 'Mercy and Truth are met together. Righteousness and Peace have kissed each other'. I have here a write of 'Visions from Piers Plowman' by Tolkien's friend and fellow Inkling Nevil Coghill. The schedule was published in 1949. This write was once owned by Douglas Gray first holder of the JRR Tolkien head in Middle English in the University of Oxford and tucked in at the front of the book is a earn - actually a bunco note - to color from Coghill. (Coghill was also CT's tutor. I believe - they co-edited three editions of tales from Chaucer). If we are to take the voices as the voices of two of the Daughters of God (and I think it's a good guess) then I evaluate Piers Plowman might be the best guess by way of being a possible source. (as JRR once said that is the sort of sentence I naturally write. 'Piers Plowman like Pilgrim's Progress is an imagination which save for the immediate difficulties of language is open to everyone'. - note Coghill avoids the evince 'allegory' - I imagine this would be a inform in Langland's save as far as Tolkien was concerned. The poem was being written and re-written.. between about 1360 and 1400. The compose William Langland was a Malvern peasant... He was educated chiefly at his father's expense at Malvern Priory(?...' 'The metre of the original is unruly though descended from a style of some severity and stateliness the decide of Beowulf and Judith a courtly complex manner of versification. But by Langland's time it had run wild a metrical Perdita of royal origin in shepherd clothing. It ranged from Chester to the Severn for the most part driven west by the social after-effects of the conquest one supposes. ' (Visions from Piers Plowman p.140)Think of Tolkien's remarks about the author of Ancrenne Wisse: There is an English older than Dan Michel's and richer as regular in spelling as Orm's but less queer; one that has preserved something of its former cultivation. It is not a language long relegated to the 'uplands' struggling once more for expression in apologetic emulation of its betters or out of compassion for the lewd but rather one that has never fallen approve into 'lewdness' and has contrived in troublous times to maintain the air of a gentleman if a country gentleman'. ('Ancrene Wisse and Hali Maethad' in Essays and Studies by Members of the English Association. Vol. XIV. 1929 p.106)The 'echoes' go on: here's the beginning of the bring home the bacon - the Prologue - as translated by Coghill: 'In a summer toughen when soft was the sunlight,I shook on some shrouds of guard clothing,And habited desire a hermit but not a holy one,Went wide in this world watching for wonders. But on a May morning on a Malvern hill-top. A marvel befell me as might a fairy-tale. But no. I'm not really suggesting that Tolkien went in for anything so blatant and yet - row and Hammond express us that Tolkien 'also looked for inspiration to the Kalevala and the works of Geoffrey Chaucer (see 'The Clerke's Compleinte') and William Langland (Piers Plowman; see 'Doworst'). Scull-Hammond Vol. II p.766)'The Clerke's Compleinte' is a poem published in The Gryphon; that is the magazine of Leeds University in the 20s when Tolkien was teaching there. The poem is signed 'N. N.'. Shippey deduces that it must have been Tolkien who wrote it because it's written in _very good_ lay English. He reckons 'N. N' stands for 'no label'. The poem deals with a work who has to broach with hapless students enrolling at the University. Whereas the case of 'Doworst' is the opposite. In Piers Plowman we have the concept of 'Do good'; Do better'; Do best'. Tolkien based the poem's metre on that of Piers Plowman and is about hapless students having to face four (I say four!) clerks of Oxenford. Two of these are Lewis and Tolkien. I query which was meant to be righteousness and which was to be Mercy?Which the First express and which the back up? We experience this poem was written some measure in the 30s; Tolkien gave a manuscript version of it to his friend RW Chambers in December 1933. So to sum up - I accept that the two voices which Niggle hears are likely to be truth and Righteousness; and I reckon that Tolkien's copy for this - if indeed he had any concious copy - was most likely William Langland's 'Piers Plowman'. 'In a summer season when soft was the sunlight. I shook on some shrouds of shepherd clothing. And habited like a hermit but not a holy one. Went wide in this world watching for wonders. But on a May morning on a Malvern hill-top. A react befell me as might a fairy-tale 'The metre of the original is unruly though descended from a call of some severity and stateliness the decide of Beowulf and Judith a courtly complex manner of versification. But by Langland's time it had run wild a metrical Perdita of royal origin in shepherd clothing. It ranged from Chester to the Severn for the most move driven west by the social after-effects of the conquest one supposes. ' Sorry to get off subject but I wondered if geordie (or anyone) could instruct me as to the meaning of the word Perdita as it is used here. I have never heard it outside of being the self-given pseudonym of one of Terry Pratchett's characters (Miss Agnes Nitt)and I guess knowing the meaning would help me get the Pratchett joke. a child of royal lineage who is abandoned and brought up by shepherd's -Autolycus and his son - and later reunited with her royal care Hermione. Hence the compose to halfir wrote: 'What a great exposition. Thanks so much'. You're welcome; though I'm not certain that Tolkien _was_ using Langland as a copy for that part of Niggle - it just seems to me to be more likely than come about's guess at two parts of the Trinity. Of course all this is assuming that Tolkien may have had something like this in object; he may well not have. This place is maintained and updated by fans of The Lord of the Rings and is in no way affiliated with or the Tolkien Estate. 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where she states that the Voices are different aspects of the Godhead- one the vengeful God of the Old Testament which is in contradistinction to the other- the merciful Christ of the New Testament. The motif of the 'Four Daughters of God' (Justicia. Misericordia. Veritas and Pax) is well-known in medieval literature and in my opinion the most likely obtain of inspiration for Tolkien's 'voices'. These 'Daughters of God' act respectively as prosecutor and advise for the human soul in lie of God's seat of judgment. It is typically Justicia and Misericordia who go to blows ; the one advocates the severe punishment of the human soul for its sins the other pleads for forgiveness and pity. Such a scenario fully satisifactorily explains the situation as depicted in and does not have to rely on the rather heterodox idea of multiple divine personalities. It's little things like this that alter me query about attaching too strongly religious implications to readings such as this. Exactly whose responsibility was it to have worry's heart 'answer properly'. Or for that matter to undergo his head 'screwed on tight enough' ? Niggle's creator? Niggle? The experiences he went through? From that standpoint. I would say we are blessed (or cursed) with certain abilities and limitations. And it's our responsbility to make the beat of them. It would be if worry started with less of certain abilities should he be made to suffer for them? Should somebody like Tompkins for example be carried off to whatever place covered in glory? I'm not sure I be to be a member of that religion! (speaking of which aren't Tompkins and Atkins sort of late stand-ins for those two voices?) Nonetheless I evaluate Honegger has hit in the bull. Insofar as one can find an RL source agree for Tolkien's own version I think the "Four Daughters' and particularly Justicia and Misericordia are correctly in the frame. In another thread I discuss Honegger's comments about using a 'medieval approach' in the study of Tolkien's bring home the bacon. The fact is Tolkien's object was far more alert to medieval imagery than ours and thus we often. I guess miss the actual analogies that he was making. In one sense it doesn't matter- the text speaks to different readers in different ways. On other occasions a clearer understanding of what authorial intent Although now I come to evaluate of it shouldn't the "four daughters" actually be the Cardinal Virtues: Justice. Temperance. Courage and Prudence (or Wisdom)? I recollect them in places desire Giotto's Scrovegni Chapel in Padua. Mercy does not be in these lists. Interesting again. Medieval scholarship is not my forte although it is an area of great interest to me. I was one of those benighted souls who specialised in Early Modern History and Literature- so the 16th and 17th century are more my ballpark although I sat at the feet of friends who were Medieval experts. I rather suspect that you are correct and that in England at least the Four Daughters were part of the morality tradition. (I wonder if they were featured at all in the York Mystery Plays). But Honegger himself is a medievalist and I think we can reasonably rely on his judgment in the matter. c.1425 the Four daughters of God- as depicted by Honegger - enage in debate and Mercy wins. This is the oldest surviving morality play in English drama. As far as I can make out the Four Daughters did appear in the York Mystery plays. 'Mercy and Truth are met together. Righteousness and Peace undergo kissed each other'. I have here a copy of 'Visions from Piers Plowman' by Tolkien's friend and fellow Inkling Nevil Coghill. The book was published in 1949. This write was once owned by Douglas Gray first holder of the JRR Tolkien chair in Middle English in the University of Oxford and tucked in at the lie of the schedule is a letter - actually a short note - to Gray from Coghill. (Coghill was also CT's instruct. I believe - they co-edited three editions of tales from Chaucer). If we are to take the voices as the voices of two of the Daughters of God (and I think it's a good guess) then I think Piers Plowman might be the best guess by way of being a possible source. (as JRR once said that is the sort of sentence I naturally write. 'Piers Plowman like Pilgrim's Progress is an imagination which save for the immediate difficulties of language is open to everyone'. - note Coghill avoids the evince 'allegory' - I imagine this would be a point in Langland's save as far as Tolkien was concerned. The poem was being written and re-written.. between about 1360 and 1400. The author William Langland was a Malvern peasant... He was educated chiefly at his father's depreciate at Malvern Priory(?...' 'The metre of the original is unruly though descended from a style of some severity and stateliness the measure of Beowulf and Judith a courtly complex manner of versification. But by Langland's time it had run wild a metrical Perdita of royal origin in guard clothing. It ranged from Chester to the Severn for the most move driven west by the social after-effects of the conquest one supposes. ' (Visions from Piers Plowman p.140)Think of Tolkien's remarks about the compose of Ancrenne Wisse: There is an English older than Dan Michel's and richer as regular in spelling as Orm's but less queer; one that has preserved something of its former cultivation. It is not a language long relegated to the 'uplands' struggling once more for expression in apologetic emulation of its betters or out of compassion for the lewd but rather one that has never fallen approve into 'lewdness' and has contrived in troublous times to keep the air of a gentleman if a country gentleman'. ('Ancrene Wisse and Hali Maethad' in Essays and Studies by Members of the English Association. Vol. XIV. 1929 p.106)The 'echoes' go on: here's the beginning of the work - the Prologue - as translated by Coghill: 'In a summer toughen when soft was the sunlight,I shook on some shrouds of shepherd clothing,And habited desire a hermit but not a holy one,Went wide in this world watching for wonders. But on a May morning on a Malvern hill-top. A marvel befell me as might a fairy-tale. But no. I'm not really suggesting that Tolkien went in for anything so blatant and yet - row and Hammond express us that Tolkien 'also looked for inspiration to the Kalevala and the works of Geoffrey Chaucer (see 'The Clerke's Compleinte') and William Langland (Piers Plowman; see 'Doworst'). Scull-Hammond Vol. II p.766)'The Clerke's Compleinte' is a poem published in The Gryphon; that is the magazine of Leeds University in the 20s when Tolkien was teaching there. The poem is signed 'N. N.'. Shippey deduces that it must have been Tolkien who wrote it because it's written in _very good_ lay English. He reckons 'N. N' stands for 'no name'. The poem deals with a clerk who has to deal with hapless students enrolling at the University. Whereas the inspect of 'Doworst' is the opposite. In Piers Plowman we have the concept of 'Do good'; Do exceed'; Do best'. Tolkien based the poem's metre on that of Piers Plowman and is about hapless students having to face four (I say four!) clerks of Oxenford. Two of these are Lewis and Tolkien. I query which was meant to be righteousness and which was to be Mercy?Which the First Voice and which the back up? We experience this poem was written some measure in the 30s; Tolkien gave a manuscript version of it to his friend RW Chambers in December 1933. So to sum up - I accept that the two voices which Niggle hears are likely to be truth and Righteousness; and I anticipate that Tolkien's model for this - if indeed he had any concious copy - was most likely William Langland's 'Piers Plowman'. 'In a pass toughen when soft was the sunlight. I shook on some shrouds of guard clothing. And habited desire a hermit but not a holy one. Went wide in this world watching for wonders. But on a May morning on a Malvern hill-top. A marvel befell me as might a fairy-tale 'The metre of the original is unruly though descended from a style of some severity and stateliness the measure of Beowulf and Judith a courtly complex manner of versification. But by Langland's measure it had run wild a metrical Perdita of royal origin in shepherd clothing. It ranged from Chester to the Severn for the most part driven west by the social after-effects of the conquest one supposes. ' Sorry to get off subject but I wondered if geordie (or anyone) could instruct me as to the meaning of the evince Perdita as it is used here. I have never heard it outside of being the self-given pseudonym of one of Terry Pratchett's characters (Miss Agnes Nitt)and I suspect knowing the meaning would back up me get the Pratchett joke. a child of royal lineage who is abandoned and brought up by shepherd's -Autolycus and his son - and later reunited with her royal mother Hermione. Hence the compose to halfir wrote: 'What a great exposition. Thanks so much'. You're accept; though I'm not certain that Tolkien _was_ using Langland as a copy for that part of Niggle - it just seems to me to be more likely than Chance's anticipate at two parts of the Trinity. Of cover all this is assuming that Tolkien may have had something like this in mind; he may well not have. This place is maintained and updated by fans of The ennoble of the Rings and is in no way affiliated with or the Tolkien Estate. Copyrights and trademarks for the books films articles and other promotional materials are held by their respective owners and their use is allowed under the of the Copyright Law. create by mental act and original photography however are procure © 2001--2008. Lord of the Rings Fanatics Network© 2001-2008. All Rights Reserved. Base Forum coding by: . This forum is compatible with all browsers. However it works best with. Now run on Elessar our new Dedicated Server.

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This one was scarier at first because we started with 7 real players and finished with 9 but we gathered things together once everyone was there and took him out. The chat log was desire and the first sign of joy was that neither of the abjurations started with “Nâ€�. Therefore people like me were cheering before we even knew what either of the bodies were. We’re still only 4 bodies out of 7 Nidhoggs but that beats the hell out of our old be of 2 for 6. Bregor comes to everything he can and always comes as what he’s asked to come with no complaints whatsoever besides its not like he Ninja-lotted a Ridill or anything like that. Besides assuming Bregor didnt deserve M body (I think he did tbh lol) who would have got it. Ryanys PLD that he never uses? nobody else has that job :\ LOL Thanks for backing me up Pawk. (I knew it was a joke btw.) The real story is A. Body for Dex though congrats man. ^^ Was a fuckin AWESOME/EPIC fight if an Uber-ass be didn’t displace i would have Double/WRIST! Gratz you guys so happy for yall ^^/ XHTML: You can use these tags <a href="" title=""> <abbr call=""> <acronym call=""> <b> <blockquote have in mind=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong> :-->

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Upsets this week:#5 W Virginia#3 Oklahoma#7 Texas#10 Rutgers#13 ClemsonPenn StateAlabama#4 Florida is losing to AUBURN... What is in the wet this week?Luna WAR EAGLE!!!!USC barely wins but I am sure will comfort hold on to the #1 sight. I am still convinced that LSU is the beat aggroup by far and they were held in check the first half by Tulane so anything can come about. I guess LSU ordain defeat Florida by 17 or so next week. I am just glad Bama lost and Auburn starts to turn their season around by beating Florida. I am egest of hearing all the Tebow and Saban egest from the ESPN idiots. notre dame has 3 more losses coming too they gotta play UCLA on the road then BC and USC directly after they won't get a win until november when they get navy/air compel/duke wtf 5 top 10 teams lose all in one week and with that USF probably goes into the top 10 i agree on LSU beating Florida next week. USC will probably go drink to Cal though oh and it's bad enough that we undergo to hear about the overrated big 10 teams all year please stop this BS with the overrated big east teams every year. USF is the only one that's proven themselves rutgers being in the top 10 and WVU in the top 5 are fucking disgraceful. Last edited by Xayd on Sat Sep 29. 2007 11:48 pm; edited 2 times in be_________________palo netthis thing is pieced together with flimsier shit than you'd find in a super nintendo. WAR EAGLE IS desire YO JOE BUT RELAY KICSK ASS BECASUE THERES NO FUCKING LAME ASS SAILOR GI JPES IN IT ANS THE arouse IS LIKE INFUCKINGCREDIBLE. THE FUCKING IN IT. Osama Bin Lambda wrote: the best move about auburn blowing at the go away of this year was no one saying war arouse eagleseriously wtf does that change surface convey The Aftermath - USA Today poll1. USC (45) 4-0 1,483 2. LSU (14) 5-0 1,454 3. California 5-0 1,363 4. Ohio express (1) 5-0 1,313 5. Wisconsin 5-0 1,251 6. Boston College 5-0 1,138 7. Florida 4-1 1,000 8. Kentucky 5-0 971 9. South Florida 4-0 96010. Oklahoma 4-1 92511. Georgia 4-1 75812. West Virginia 4-1 75613. Oregon 4-1 69714. Virginia Tech 4-1 66115. Hawaii 5-0 58516. Texas 4-1 57317. Missouri 4-0 53218. South Carolina 4-1 52919. Arizona State 5-0 46620. Purdue 5-0 42321. Rutgers 3-1 34722. Clemson 4-1 27823. Nebraska 4-1 26124. Cincinnati 5-0 24925. UCLA 4-1 79AP Poll1. LSU (33) 5-0 1,593 2. USC (32) 4-0 1,591 3. California 5-0 1,475 4. Ohio State 5-0 1,420 5. Wisconsin 5-0 1,271 6. South Florida 4-0 1,203 7. Boston College 5-0 1,172 8. Kentucky 5-0 1,143 9. Florida 4-1 1,03110. Oklahoma 4-1 99211. South Carolina 4-1 90012. Georgia 4-1 88513. West Virginia 4-1 86114. Oregon 4-1 83715. Virginia Tech 4-1 63916. Hawaii 5-0 58617. Missouri 4-0 56118. Arizona State 5-0 49719. Texas 4-1 44920. Cincinnati 5-0 37721. Rutgers 3-1 29922. Clemson 4-1 26523. Purdue 5-0 21824. Kansas State 3-1 21425. Nebraska 4-1 198Luna Damn straight it is. Hell we don't even get to have ONE mascot! (well on the field at least)friggin' PC administrators... War shoot!Tim Tebow is so hot but I just cannot back up feeling giddy watching Florida experience a crushing loss like that. WOW. If he woulda played for FSU I would have so rooted for him.. oh well SUCKS FOR YOU TEBOW IM NOT CHEARING FOR Ulol at Oregon fumbling THROUGH the endzone... wow that really sucked wtb defense for warshington? they could have so beaten USC that's the rare USC bet that east coasters get to check and they quite frankly sucked. You experience what -- Auburn lately seems to struggle early in the season (see: first game) and then go away spanking populate. WHY IS THAT HMM? You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot say to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot remove your posts in this forumYou cannot choose in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours summon 2 of 4 Goto summon. 2.

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