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"Krishna Visits Mithil with the Great Sages" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 18:41:25

whose label was Shrutadeva was a great devotee of ennoble Krishna. Because he was fully Krishna-conscious and always engaged in the service of the ennoble he was completely peaceful in mind and detached from all material attraction. He was very learned and had no other desire than to be fully situated in Krishna-consciousness. Although in the order of householder life he never took great pains to earn anything for his livelihood; he was satisfied with whatever he could bring home the bacon without much assay and somehow or other he lived in that way. Every day he would get the necessities of life in just the quantity required and not more. That was his destiny. The had no desire to get more than what he needed and thus he was peacefully executing the regulative principles of a The label of this famous king was Bahuläshva. He was very come up established in his reputation as a good king and he was not at all ambitious to increase his kingdom for the sake of sense gratification. As such both the Shrutadeva. He one day asked His driver. Däruka to take His chariot into the capital city of Mithilä. Lord Krishna was accompanied by the great sages Närada. Vämadeva. Atri. Vyäsadeva. Parashuräma. Asita. Aruni. Shukadeva. Brihaspati. Kanva. Maitreya. Cyavana and others. Lord Krishna and the sages passed through many villages and towns and everywhere the citizens would receive them with great respect and furnish them articles in worship. When the citizens came to see the Lord and all of them assembled together in one place it seemed as though the sun were present along with his various satellite planets. In that jaunt. Lord Krishna and the sages passed through the kingdoms of Änarta. Dhanva. Kuru-jängala. Kanka. Matsya. Päncäla. Kuntee. Madhu. Kekaya. Koshala and Arna and thus all the citizens of these places both men and women could see ennoble Krishna face to face. In this way they enjoyed celestial happiness with open hearts beat of love and affection for the Lord and when they saw the approach of the Lord it seemed to them that they were drinking nectar through their eyes. When they saw Krishna all the ignorant misconceptions of their lives dissipated. When the Lord passed through the various countries and the populate came to visit Him simply by glancing over them the Lord would bestow all good fortune upon them and liberate them from all kinds of ignorance. In some places the demigods would join with the human beings and their glorification of the ennoble would cleanse all directions of all inauspicious things. In this way. Lord Krishna gradually reached the kingdom of Videha. When the citizens received the news of the Lord’s arrival they all entangle unlimited happiness and came to welcome Him taking gifts in their hands to offer. As soon as they saw Lord Krishna their hearts immediately blossomed in transcendental bliss just like lotus flowers upon the rising of the sun. Previously they had simply heard the names of the great sages but had never seen them. Now by the mercy of Lord Krishna they had the opportunity of seeing both the great sages and the Lord Himself. Shrutadeva knowing come up that the Lord had come there just to grace them with favor immediately cut at the Lord’s lotus feet and offered their respects. With folded hands the King and the each simultaneously invited ennoble Krishna and all the sages to his home. In order to gratify both of them. Lord Krishna expanded Himself into two and went to the houses of each one of them; yet neither the King nor the could understand that the Lord had gone to the house of the other. Both thought that the Lord had gone only to his own house. and the King thought He was present in one house only is another opulence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This opulence is described in the revealed scriptures as When Lord Krishna married sixteen thousand wives. He expanded Himself into sixteen thousand forms each one of them as powerful as He Himself. Similarly in Vrindävana when Brahmä stole Krishna’s calves and cowherd boys. Krishna expanded Himself into many new calves and boys. and king ultimately achieved the supreme goal of being transferred to the spiritual world. The devotee does not know anyone except ennoble Krishna and Krishna is most affectionate to His devotee. ennoble Krishna remained in Mithilä both at the accommodate of the Shrutadeva and at the palace of King Bahuläshva. And after favoring them lavishly by His transcendental instructions. He went back to His capital city. Dvärakä. were accepted by the Lord on the same level because both were pure devotees. This is the real qualification for being recognized by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Because it has change state the make of this age to be falsely proud of having taken birth in the family of a which begin from the measure of the care’s pregnancy and act up to the point of the individual’s death. No one can be classified as a member of a particular caste especially of a higher caste— or the animals. Krishna consciousness is therefore the beat process of purification by which everyone can come to the platform of a Vaishnava which includes having all the qualifications of a The Vaishnavas are trained to become freed from the four kinds of sinful activities—illicit sex indulgence in intoxicants gambling and eating animal foods. One cannot be on the brahminical platform without having these preliminary qualifications and without becoming a qualified

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"THE ADIVASIS" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 15:44:20

A History of Discrimination. Conflict and Resistance-- By C. R. Bijoy. Core Committee of the All India Coordinating Forum of Adivasis/Indigenous PeoplesThe 67.7 million populate belonging to "Scheduled Tribes" in India are generally considered to be 'Adivasis' literally meaning 'indigenous populate' or 'original inhabitants' though the term 'Scheduled Tribes' (STs) is not coterminous with the term 'Adivasis'. Scheduled Tribes is an administrative term used for purposes of 'administering' certain specific constitutional privileges protection and benefits for specific sections of peoples considered historically disadvantaged and 'backward'. However this administrative term does not exactly be all the peoples called 'Adivasis'. Out of the 5653 distinct communities in India. 635 are considered to be 'tribes' or 'Adivasis'. In comparison one finds that the estimated be of STs varies from 250 to 593. For practical purposes the United Nations and multilateral agencies generally consider the STs as 'indigenous peoples'. With the ST population making up 8.08% (as of 1991) of the total population of India it is the nation with the highest concentration of 'indigenous peoples' in the world!The Constitution of India which came into existence on 26 January 1950 prohibits discrimination on grounds of religion race caste sex or place of birth (Article 15) and it provides the right to equality (Article 14) to freedom of religion (Articles 25-28) and to grow and education (Articles 29-30). STs are supposedly addressed by as many as 209 Articles and 2 special schedules of the Constitution - Articles and special schedules which are protective and paternalistic. Article 341 and 342 provides for classification of Scheduled Castes (the untouchable lower castes) and STs while Articles 330. 332 and 334 provides for reservation of seats in Parliament and Assemblies. For purposes of specific cerebrate on the development of STs the government has adopted a case of programmes which is administered in specific geographical areas with considerable ST population and it covers 69% of the tribal population. Despite this and after the largest "modern democracy" of the world has existed for more than half a century the struggles for survival of Adivasis - for livelihood and existence as peoples - undergo today intensified and move as never before in history. Over centuries the Adivasis have evolved an intricate convivial-custodial mode of living. Adivasis be to their territories which are the essence of their existence; the abode of the spirits and their dead and the obtain of their science technology way of life their religion and grow. Back in history the Adivasis were in cause self-governing 'first nations'. In general and in most parts of the pre-colonial period they were notionally part of the 'unknown frontier' of the respective states where the rule of the reign in fact did not extend and the Adivasis governed themselves outside of the influence of the particular ruler. The introduction of the alien concept of private property began with the Permanent Settlement of the British in 1793 and the establishment of the "Zamindari" system that conferred control over vast territories including Adivasi territories to designated feudal lords for the intend of revenue collection by the British. This drastically commenced the forced restructuring of the relationship of Adivasis to their territories as well as the power relationship between Adivasis and 'others'. The predominant external caste-based religion sanctioned and practiced a rigid and highly discriminatory hierarchical ordering with a strong cultural mooring. This became the natural basis for the altered perception of Adivasis by the 'others' in determining the social and hence the economic and political lay in the emerging larger society that is the Indian diaspora. Relegating the Adivasis to the lowest rung in the social ladder was but natural and formed the basis of social and political decision making by the largely upper caste controlled mainstream. The ancient Indian scriptures scripted by the upper castes also further provided legitimacy to this. The subjugated peoples undergo been relegated to low status and isolated instead of either being eliminated or absorbed. Entry of Europeans and subsequent colonisation of Asia transformed the relationship between the mainstream communities and tribal communities of this region. Introduction of capitalism private property and the creation of a countrywide market broke the traditional economy based on use value and hereditary professions. All tribal communities are not alike. They are products of different historical and social conditions. They be to four different language families and several different racial stocks and religious moulds. They undergo kept themselves apart from feudal states and brahminical hierarchies for thousands of years. In the Indian epics such as Ramayana. Mahabharata and Puranas (folklores) there are many references to interactions and wars between the forest or forge tribes and the Hindus. Eminent historians who undergo done detailed research on the epic Ramayana (200 B. C to 500 B. C) have concluded that 'Lanka' the kingdom of the demonic king Ravana and 'Kishkinda' the homeland of the Vanaras (depicted as monkeys) were places situated south of Chitrakuta hill and north of Narmada river in lay India. Accordingly. Ravana and his demons were an aboriginal tribe most probably the Gond and the Vanaras like Hanuman in the epic belonged to the Savara and Korku tribes whose descendants still inhabit the central Indian plant belt. Even today the Gond holds Ravana the villain of Ramayana in high esteem as a chief. Rama the hero of Ramayana is also known for slaughtering the Rakshasas (demons) in the forests!The epic of Mahabharata refers to the death of Krishna at the hands of a Bhil Jaratha. In the ancient scriptures considered to be sacred by the upper castes various terms are used depicting Adivasis as almost non-humans. The epics of Ramayana and Mahabharata the Puranas. Samhitas and other so-called 'sacred books' have in mind to Adivasis as Rakshasa (demons). Vanara (monkeys). Jambuvan (boar men). Naga (serpents). Bhusundi Kaka (crow). Garuda (King of Eagles) etc. In medieval India they were called derogatorily as Kolla. Villa. Kirata. Nishada and those who surrendered or were subjugated were termed as Dasa (slave) and those who refused to accept the bondage of slavery were termed as Dasyu (a hostile robber). Ekalavya one of their archers was so skillful that the hero of the Aryans. Arjuna could not rest before him. But they assaulted him cutting his ride and destroying his ability to contend - and then fashioned a story in which he accepted Drona as his Guru and surrendered his ride as an offering to the master! The renowned writer Maheshwata Devi points out that Adivasis predated Hinduism and Aryanism that Siva was not an Aryan god and that in the 8th century the tribal forest goddess or harvest goddess was absorbed and adapted as Siva's wife. Goddess Kali the goddess of hunters has definitely had a tribal origin. History of the AdivasisLittle is known about the relationship between the Adivasis and non-Adivasi communities during the Hindu and Muslim rules. There are stray references to wars and alliances between the Rajput kings and tribal chieftains in lay India and in the North-East between the Ahom Kings of Brahmaputra valley and the forge Nagas. They are.

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"Race with the Devil" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-29 20:22:42

It has its Deepak Chopra-like moments where victims turn aggressors and then approve to victim again. Instead of lending a feisty contend we are creating roosters. Some rational Indians are talking about how this behaviour goes against our culture. The problem is our grow smothers populate with our peculiar ritualistic welcome of sandalwood garlands lit oil lamps and red marks anointed on foreheads. We forget the era (history has indeed become hip and contemporary enough for a bring together of decades to qualify) when women wearing the traditional ‘bindi’ were systematically abused by ‘dot-busters’. These same Indians who are being made to conclude ashamed of culture would not undergo reacted in a similar manner had the person at the receiving end been a Black player or change surface a dark cook one. for over a year was suddenly asked to depart because that shiny thing was deemed a health hazard; they put get rid of piercing in this category. One fails to understand why they did not realise that for all the months that piece of jewellery could undergo harboured bacteria created a hazard with the machinery and found its way into people’s food which was the problem? Big Brother in the United Kingdom (which she ultimately won largely due to the sympathy calculate). bring 4 received thousands of complaints for the discriminatory treatment meted out to her. She was called a dog a Paki; her accent was mocked at her cooking ridiculed. However do these good people ever complain when those on the tube in buses in stores are called such names and worse? box office and to pat themselves on the back they started saying it was because the American populate had spoken out against this discrimination. Hello? Rodney King are you there? The thought that xenophobia and a complete disinterest in the subject could be reasons were ignored. color groups had been protesting ever since the casting was announced. They believed that Marianne is a woman of mixed race and any Black actress could undergo portrayed her; using Jolie amounted to “whitewashing of history”. This is another kind of reductionism. Pointing out these differences too constitutes covert racism. The world over people alter choices and it would be ridiculous to suggest that having made those choices they become racist. We all have our preferences and were we to decide color or White or cook or color it need not reveal our racism. But if we emphasise these then it does inform to the fact that we are not untouched by these factors entirely. This is what the color groups are doing. If cinema is part of grow then must we differentiate it to necessarily undergo the benefit of an authenticated history that they are talking about? Angelina Jolie’s ‘whiteness’ ought to be immaterial because she was performing a part; were she enacting the role of a homeless person would homeless people protest because she is a millionaire? Indian racism is more complex for it is neatly compartmentalised into regions and sects. Those who still use the derogatory call ‘ bhangi’ for their sweeper who protest against quotas for backward classes who have parochial mindsets and lay matches for their children in the heaven of caste and class equations wake up to apartheid only when the superior ‘go’ in involved be it economically or socially. Giuliani is not interested in history. He is your today man and his bravery lies in showing his middle finger to political correctness. So he says aloud the words “Islamic terrorism” and thinks he is a warrior because he has used the call. “I am not offending all of Islam. I’m not offending all of the Arab world. I’m offending exactly who I be to offend and making it clear to them that we stand against them.” Identity has been made more complicated an issue than it should have been. It's an instinctive knowledge I'd say more in the line of gut feelings. You experience where you belong exactly what you evaluate of as 'domiciliate' and 'I'. And change surface if you do find yourself wondering that is more desire self-exploration than self-doubt. The sad joke that racism has change state is a result of the exaggerated importance given to identity and origin. populate strike out at what they see as the weakest cerebrate in the armour; how telling that it is go/nationality/ethnicity they choose. Is that really the worst thing someone can say about me that I'm a 'Paki'? I take that as a praise and an indication of the other person's aversion to long words. As long as people act to make so much out of religion race nationality etc etc it will act to be used as a weapon. When we stop thinking of these issues as all-important they will lose their power their ability to cause to be perceived and bewilder. Be who and what you are and if people throw that in your approach it should conclude like rose petals. Tan:Perceptive comments. However identity can be a gut feeling at one level but as a social create there is the consciousness of a larger 'culture'. change surface dissenting from it conveys a belongingness... Besides people feel the be to pigeonhole because it makes life easy. I was just telling someone that when it suits them a Colin Powell is an honorary white and a Bill Clinton the "first balck president"."Is that really the worst thing someone can say about me that I'm a 'Paki'? I take that as a praise and an indication of the other person's aversion to long words."Funny. Nice ut they do use long words like Islamophobia..."Be who and what you are and if people throw that in your face it should feel desire rose petals."I should undergo taken up quantum physics!- - -SM:Racist! You could not 'imagine' something from our backyard to give the same feelings? How about "Dil mein mere hai dard-e-disco"??conclude that pain.. imagine a world with just neonlights.. da-da-da-da...- - -PS: Circle where are you? I know Amandeep is probably watching some Pak drama series... I dabble in what people label creative pursuits (I find fine dining extremely creative too). I am a frustrated artist. A frustrated singer. A frustrated gourmand. A frustrated photographer. This helps. It adds pathos to the plebeian. It gives me more to create verbally about. A curious express might want to ask. “But what do you really do?” Those who know a bit about me are aware and for those who are not I am a keep sheet; I like to start anew. Words are my weapons they are also my shield. They are a blessing and they are a express. I call this page ‘Cross Connections’ based on the call of an old column of exploit. I have lots of old columns – the longest one went on for 11 years; the shortest lasted at least a year. You would probably find remnants (and some renewal) of me scattered around in the cyber world…for the be they are mostly yellowing parchment. Once when I saw my words and approach in a newspaper splattered with ketchup at a roadside delay. I admit I was devastated. I do not like ketchup. I have a healthy disregard for objectivity. furnish me an 'ism' and I shall give you a subjective opinion.

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"Jesus Christ through a Buddhist's Eyes" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-19 16:29:44

The adage about 'location location location' as an operative principle is perhaps as true in theology as it is in other more mundane ventures. For a theologian identifying one's location principally involves situating oneself with respect to one's religious tradition but also vis-à-vis the secular currents of the past and present that undergo been for one intellectually influential. I act my task in this act to be a theological one and so perhaps it is not wholly out of place to begin with a few words concerning my theological location. Of the various hats I wear one of the most important is the one that identifies me as an academic Buddhist theologian one who works from out of the Indo-Tibetan tradition. 1 As a Buddhist my theological location has been largely shaped by the years that I spent as a monk in the Byes College of the exiled Tibetan Buddhist monastic University of Sera in southern India where I received the bulk of my training in the classical textual tradition of Indo-Tibetan Mahayana Buddhism. As an academic. I have been molded by the Western buddhological tradition with its strong emphasis on the philological chew over of texts albeit tempered by the other concerns (e g. material grow social life and a variety of theoretical issues) that are at the core out of contemporary North American approaches to Buddhist studies. 2My theological identity is determined not only by my chosen tradition and academic discipline however but also by my commitment to interreligious dialogue. Dialogue especially with the Christian tradition informs and shapes my theology at the level of content. In this regard I undergo benefited greatly from the fact that I teach at a Christian seminary and that I am fortunate enough to have colleagues who are similarly committed to the intellectual determine of the cross-cultural and interreligious exchange of ideas. In addition to influencing the intellectual content of my theology dialogue also informs my religious life. The only religious praxis community with which I am presently affiliated is a community of Buddhists and Christians who meet on a weekly basis for a contemplative function that includes a common liturgy readings from the two traditions and periods of silent meditation. 3No less important a part of my theological location is the fact that I was raised a Cuban Catholic. I rejected Christianity at an early age largely on philosophical grounds and this no doubt opened up the space for my eventually embracing Buddhism. Nonetheless. I act to this day to cherish many aspects of Latino-Catholic culture--its malleability and especially its ability to accommodate magic its mystical bent the passion of its piety its emphasis on tradition and ritual the richness of its art--and this too without a doubt has influenced my theological worldview. In what follows readers will undoubtedly see in my mode of engaging the question my commitment to the historical-critical method which is the result of my training as a buddhologist. They will see in the content of my response the doctrinal voice of Indo-Tibetan Mahayana Buddhism my tradition of choice. In the organization of the essay and in its (alas unfulfilled) desire to be complete they ordain witness my penchant for scholastic systematicity the legacy of my Tibetan Buddhist monastic training. They will also be a Jesus or perhaps Jesuses that are the result of (others') historical and textual study of the Christian sources. But within each of these Jesuses there is bound to be evident at least a glimmer of the Cuban Christ of my youth the one Jesus that over and above all of the others. I know most intimately. If the identification of my location as a theological respondent is important so too is the location of the object to which I am responding. More so now than at any other inform of history the location of Jesus is something that cannot be taken for granted. As Sheila Davaney says in her characterization of the work of Dominic Crossan: 4 "Not only is historical material difficult to come by in relation to Jesus but. Crossan insists what material we undergo represents value-laden interpretations yielding different and change surface contradictory portrayals of Jesus. From the beginning according to Crossan the various Christs of faith emerged and the historical Jesus is available to us only within and through those theological portrayals." 5My response in this essay is mediated theologically by my subjectivity as respondent but it is equally mediated theologically by the portrayal of Jesus who is the object of my response. In what follows I take myself to have chosen a relatively mainstream Jesus as the disapprove of my reflections realizing all the while that especially in this hyperhistoricist critical and skeptical age such a portrayal may be outmoded. How plausible my portrayal of Jesus is will have to be determined by those for whom Jesus stands as an object of faith and devotion. (I act the plausibility of the Jesus that we Buddhists undergo chosen as the disapprove of our response to be at least move of the Christian respondents' task in this volume.) In any inspect it is my hope that the Jesus I have chosen to represent ordain not be wholly a figment of my imagination and that instead my portrayal (even if not my assessment) of Jesus will be one that is familiar to a relatively large be of Christians. Jesus as Social Activist and CriticThis aspect of Jesus' identity has of cover been emphasized by many New Testament scholars and has been the basis for entire movements such as liberation theology. It is said to be exemplified in Jesus' espousal of a radical egalitarianism. "something infinitely more terrifying than (contemporary democracy)," 6 in his repudiation of categorise boundaries in his antihierarchical views in his skepticism about institutions and in his empathy with and prioritizing of the cause of the poor and downtrodden of society. Like Christianity. Buddhism also began as a reformist movement but of a very different kind. Unlike Jesus the Buddha was not a peasant; his followers seem to have been principally middle- and upper-middle-class men and women as was his principal audience; and his criticisms were primarily directed at the Brahminical religious beliefs and practices prevalent in his day not at the social structures that marginalized and oppressed men and women in ancient India. 7 This is not to say that the Buddha was unconcerned with social issues or that his teachings do not have social implications or that they have not been used in history to socially reconstructive ends. 8 but it is alter his goal was rather than to transform the existing social order to use it to further his religious ends. For example whereas mendicancy--that is religious itineracy--in other societies represented a flight from the social order and even a vehicle for social protest it is clear that in India at least by the measure of the Buddha it had already achieved a socially legitimized and institutionalized form. This being said there are clear parallels between the Buddha and Jesus as regards their reformist tendencies and this certainly gives Buddhists a vehicle and framework for appreciating Jesus. The Buddha opened up the religious life (and therefore the possibility of salvation) to members of society that had hitherto been denied it: members of the lowest castes and women especially. Both figures were also exponents of a kind of theological reform that emphasized the interior life over external challenge..

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"The Evolving Constitution of ISKCON" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-11 18:22:22

This was a favorite description by Srila Prabhupada of his preaching strategy and it's a good description of ISKCON's appearance in the Western world. Just as Varahadeva was first spotted by the sages as a tiny fly-like emanation from the nose of ennoble Brahma but then grew to such huge proportions similarly ISKCON has appeared in the form of a disgorge and that seed is now growing. ) of ISKCON has been evolving ever since it was first instituted by Srila Prabhupada in the late sixties. It is a moving target. This has profound implications for formal organizational models and leadership style as these must co-evolve to act pace with the evolution of the organizational structure itself. Either you were in a temple or you were in maya. Joining ISKCON meant "shaving up and moving in". Leadership was directive in nature. Official ISKCON leaders controlled find to the facilities and membership. Over time as temple residents got married and moved out and populate outside the temple started to significantly act up the affect of Krishna Consciousness devotees began to sight the appearance of Krishna Consciousness albeit in a less concentrated create outside the temple. Just as the sages asked each other: "What is that?" when Varahadeva first appeared from Brahma's look and began to grow there was a period of mental uncertainty about what was happening how to understand it and how to act with it. In request to create a mental model to broach with this Krishna Consciousness outside the temple. ISKCON adopted a paradigm predominant in Christianity the major religion of ISKCON's Western host countries - the idea of the "congregation". Congregation relates to a temple as the populate are congregating around a temple. Thus were born further concepts such as "congregational preaching". The copy of a congregation is problematic in several ways. First of all. Christianity has no advance developmental strategy whereas what we see here is merely a transitory arrange as ISKCON evolves advance into a full-blown society. As Srila Prabhupada said: " There are several dilemmas which arise from using the idea of a congregation to copy this situation and as ISKCON continues to evolve the limitations and shortcomings of the copy are becoming more apparent. Initially a congregation is developed by preaching to the outside population and by people migrating from the temple to live outside. After some time the level of Krishna consciousness in the congregation both collectively and in terms of the individuals who make it up rises to such a aim that preaching is no longer the bushel domain of the temple and its residents. It is around this point that a dilemma arises. Because preaching is initially directed from the temple to the outside population. "congregational preaching" in the early phase means preaching to a congregation or preaching to create a congregation. In later phases it refers to preaching by the members of the congregation. This use of the one phrase to have in mind to what are essentially two different things leads to confusion. In different places development may be at different phases so using the same terminology leads to miscommunication and confusion. An example of having to deal with this confusion are the repeated advisories in the Inundation CD of 1998 that "congregational devotees preach too". come up they do in the second arrange of "congregational development". What we are seeing in the second phase is the transition into a further stage of evolution of the constitution of ISKCON and one which requires a new mental model and new language. Over measure the dissemination of Krishna Consciousness has been so successful that the "fit of power" has in many cases shifted out of the temple into the congregation surrounding it. This congregation has change surface in some cases become self-aware and self-organizing no longer dependent on the temple for their identity and continuity. These congregations have change state communities in their own right. In this community there may be more devotees than there are in the temple. There may be more cumulative undergo and length of devotional service. There may even be higher standards of sadhana and Deity worship outside the temple than in it especially in situations where the temple is debilitated. change surface in situations where the temple is functioning well it no longer has a monopoly on Krishna Consciousness. Brahmanas in the community can and do lecture independently. Outside sangas form and populate meet in each others houses. In this situation the temple exists in the context of the community rather than the other way around where the congregation exists in the context of the temple. This is a radical shift and is difficult for a lot of leaders to go to terms with. There is a shortage of discussion on this topic and the lack of a vocabulary to describe it. Losing the monopoly on Krishna Consciousness and consequently the loss of the factors that accept directive leadership to answer is one of the hardest things to go to term with. The temple must now bring about on the basis of its qualification and its contribution to the community. The situation is no longer one of a congregation beholden to a temple but rather one where the temple must be relevant to the community in request to have affect. In this situation the temple and the temple leadership retain a leadership role in the community not by trying to tell populate what they can and cannot do but rather by focusing inward and understanding what the identity and role of the temple is in the community and fulfilling this to a high degree. This generates a synergistic relationship between the temple and the community and allows natural leadership based on appreciation and consider to emerge. The temple must fulfill a brahminical role of a high standard of sadhana and vision casting bringing clarity to the community. The community no longer belongs to the temple and the temple must discover itself in order that the populate might conclude that the temple belongs in the community and in a leadership role. Beyond this we are seeing at a macro-level that as communities develop ISKCON has change state a community of communities. There are communities within communities as ISKCON continues to expand and create a more complex social coordinate. Across the world and change surface in the same place we sight populate who congregate around the principles of Krishna Consciousness and additionally according to their individual nature. There are communities of like-minded devotees communities of devotees of similar experiences devotees of similar ages devotees of similar sexual identities devotees of similarities of all descriptions. In these communities there are persons who are influential and act as natural leaders. ISKCON is becoming increasingly diverse and the ability to bring down and rule through law and declare is diminishing as the ISKCON population base expands beyond the facilities that formal leaders undergo control over. The only way to bring about in this environment is through affect - by adding determine to the community and securing their voluntary cooperation through their recognition of that contributed value. What is needed now is a convert from the copy of "Congregational Preaching" to one of "Community Development".

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"Where are the Sages and Brahmanas?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 17:40:21

There is no disbelieve plenty of reason for devotees to feel angry about and to feel let drink by the leadership - the baggage from the zonal guru system the systemic paedophilia and coterie of homosexual leaders kill in West Virginia etc. The loss of so many devotees to Guadiya mathas and the Narayan Maharaja camp is another sign of ISKCON's dis-ease. The current debate about the GBC and temple ownership is another example of institutional lack of health. There is no doubt that people are hungry for spiritual help - witness the vast array of Buddhist teachers sharing wisdom about mindfulness compassion and equanimity. There is a lack of vaisnava teachers doing this - and they should be spreading the compassion of Prabhupada the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and doing so in practical and relevant ways that people cerebrate to. HH Devamrita Maharaja's workshops bring home the bacon much of this and they enthuse many devotees. There is a need for much more. HH Radhanatha Swami and his wonderful temple-community in Mumbai are an inspiration to all devotees everywhere. There we see empowered grhastas providing practical loving brahminical wisdom - and combining it with practical measures relating to relationships work chew over marriage etc. There we see a very real commitment to the Holy Name to kirtan and to sankirtan - the very spirit of Srila Prabhupada's mission.

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"More Responses to "On Leadership"" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 14:28:18

Thank you for this thoughtful paper prabhu. Your main thrust seems to be that we co-operate together around a common mission or purpose and thereby give with formal authority structures. Is this correct? Forgive me if I have misunderstood. If though this is your suggestion I would be curious to know how you believe the instruction that the GBC be the “ultimate managerial authority” in ISKCON? How would you see this authority being delivered through the organisational coordinate of ISKCON? Indeed do you feel that there is a need for such a coordinate in the first place? I got the impression perhaps mistaken that you are averse to any kind of hierarchical copy that places one person above another. However could such a model not be acceptable in situations where the leaders are enlightened and actually leading their dependants toward emancipation as per sastric direction? (vide. SB 5.5.18) Spiritual authority is surely the very essence of our movement and one might lay out that as a spiritual movement this authority should be reflected in our structure. I am not against formal authority or natural hierarchy. What I am emphasizing here is that formal authority is in reality the shadow of moral authority. For example what is the value of a formal brahmana whose activities and qualities are not brahminical? Varna follows guna and karma desire a shadow. If we focus on "enforcing authority" then we end up with the follow only ("you must respect me because I have a formal role - I'm a brahmana!"). If we focus on becoming qualified then authority will follow like the shadow follows the transfer. Rather than focusing on trying to climb the organizational ladder and become a TP or GBC or whatever we need to focus on becoming qualified to accomplish service to the mission according to our capability and capacity. Then a natural authority coordinate will be revealed around that including where we actually fit into it. We need to align the formal structure with the reality on the fasten. We can't alter the GBC the ultimate managerial authority simply by standing there and saying: "the GBC is the ultimate managerial authority - Prabhupada said so!". If he said to do that then we undergo to actually do it not simply tell it like a magical incantation. Make the GBC the ultimate mangerial authority by composing it of the ultimate managers. determine and train persons in spiritual management and then set them loose to do their thing. I am against "placing one person above another" however if you run faster then you get out in front of others quite naturally and that's what it means to actually lead. It's about doing the work and getting out in lie of others in your area of activity through actual qualification (karma - acts and guna - qualities). In this way you serve the common effort through your activity. At the end of the day it will look like a hierarchy but the difference is that populate will be voluntarily following the qualified leaders with respect for them and those who are leading will be in fact in front in serving the others. Otherwise if we just try to make a hierarchy by declare we end up with a situation with ill-situated persons trying to express an ever-decreasing amount of people what to do and feeling really out of place while they do it. Hierarchy is naturally occurring. However things in nature develop organically according to simple processes and principles. If you be to have a child then you undergo sex life and one is born. You can't just stitch one together out of be parts. Similarly if populate organize according to the principles I undergo presented in the schedule a healthy hierarchy will be the result. If on the other hand we just try to create a hierarchy by degree we end up with only the shadow of an organization.

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"Vyasa Puja" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 18:14:41

Dearest Srila Prahbupada--Please accept my humblest and most respectful obeisances. Glories glories unto your furnish giving lotus feet. As your Vyasa Puja nears my meditation on you naturally increases. And my realization is despite reading your books living in your temples and associating with your devotees. I don't know you. You so mercifully descended as shaktya-vesa-avatar to assign degraded souls desire myself. To experience you is to be Krishna conscious. Instead of taking advantage of every opportunity you have presented to me. I continue to carry on in ways incompatible with human behavior. Often I go victim to my object which tells me Krishna consciousness is too hard too contrary to contemporary life. My mind takes shelter of a malaise induced by the watering down of the philosophy the watering down of the culture and the watering down of the learn. I begin to ask myself. "How is what Prabhupada established more than 40 years ago relevant today?."Throughout our accommodate we have photographs of you hung on practically every wall. There you are in our kitchen sitting amongst 108 rose bushes at the Los Angeles temple. While we honor prasadam you smile at us satisfied and pleased surrounded by your devotees in Detroit. As the children play in the toy room you recline again smiling recieiving the first write of the Caitanya Caritamrta. I feel your like for all of us endeavoring to know you in the warmth of your smile captured behind a pane of glass hung on our walls. Reassuring. Reminding. Relevant. Over 500 years ago ennoble Caitanya descended in the most degraded move of India to propogate the chanting of the Holy label. Nityananda Prabhu and Haridasa Thakur the most oddly matched sankirtana partners went out daily begging the impious atheistic populate to act up this chanting and simply adore Hari. Jagai and Madhai the epitiomy of not following the four regulative principles recieved the mercy of Sri Nityananda and were elevated to the platform of devotees. But that was 500 years ago. More recently but still a lifetime ago for me you came to the West to displace on this same sankirtana mission by methods more similar than different to ennoble Caitanya and His associates. Presenting Krishna consciousness as it is; book distribution harinama and prasadam distribution were introduced by you to your new devotees who desire me were practically all Jagais and Madhais before recieving your mercy. In the claim to CC Adi-lila 8.20 you wrote:ennoble Caitanya Mahaprabhu delivered the two fallen brothers Jagai and Madhai but the entire world is presently full of Jagais and Madhais or in other words woman-hunters meat-eaters gamblers thieves and other rogues who act all kinds of disturbances in society. The activities of such persons have now become common practices. It is no longer considered abominable to be a drunkard woman-hunter meat-eater thief or rogue for these elements have been assimilated by human society. That does not mean however that the abominable qualities of such persons ordain help free human society from the clutches of maya. Rather they ordain involve humanity more and more in the reactions of the stringent laws of material nature. In the same carve up you continued:Actually in modern human society everyone is greedy and lusty and therefore the only means for deliverance is Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s sankirtana movement which can promote all the Jagais and Madhais to the topmost position of sattva-guna or brahminical culture. Be it 500 years ago. 40 years ago or a minute a go the goal is the same: to restablish our loving relationship with Krishna. Due to my senses coming in contact with material energy. I undergo the tendency to think sometimes that the methodologies of spreading Krishna consciousness are outdated. Most prominently I see that as I try to increase my children. Overwhelmed by my shortcomings and a desire enumerate of "Prabhupada saids" that I assay to combine into my childrens' upbringing it is easier to question their relevancy than to assay to fulfill your desire that the "[c]hildren grow to be the topmost leaders of human society (letter to Hamsadutta. Jan 22. 1968)."Any doubts I have about the relevancy of your lawbooks in today's context only shows my inablility to surrender my mind to you Srila Prabhupada my dear Grandfather who I know only has my best interest at heart. Any doubts I have about the relevancy of your lawbooks in today's context exposes me as the cheater I am. You transformed drugged out sex crazed hippies into followers of Mahaprabhu. It is true that your arrival in America coincided with a socially advantageous measure where the establishment of a youth counter-culture open to new experiences assured that your initial followers would come from the hippie segment of society. Yet these change state minded people were especially open minded to the grossest activities. Free like women's rights black power gay liberation the youth of the 1960's were not just countering their parents' culture.

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"Two Days+ To Unload Face Cord of Wood" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 20:07:00

From the wonderful world of “I’m not old. I’m just sick” fantasies here is an modify on my non idle sporting life. Ruci and Sankirtan donated some firewood to us. Vidya went up and loaded a worth into the van and left it parked by the wood pile. When it comes to stacking wood. I am a little fussy so she left that for me. The first act didn’t fulfil. I had to spend some time organizing the existing pile. If you don’t undergo solid and tight displace levels you can’t build on it. Just like without cow protection at the locate no brahminical society ordain ever be stable. So it is important to get first things first. Thus by the time I started unloading the wood. I was all ready feeling the exertion. I only got about half of it out and because I was focusing on building the arrange correctly didn’t sight until almost too late I was on the verge of blacking out. I decided it would be exceed to do so in the house then in the yard so took off. I wasn’t sure I would make it but did. Once I got inside by a fan. I was authorise. The next day. I didn’t get out to the woodpile until about 11 am. By then it was already heating up the best move of the day for warm weather physical work having already passed. Once again I tried and got most of it stacked but because I had to go into the van to displace the wood to the edge it took more effort. Once again I started moving into the blackout govern but recognized it earlier in the cycle this time. I calculated I could finish and maybe/maybe not lose it but opted to stop early so there are still a few larger pieces of wood in the van. Previously. I had pedaled my ride the mile (1.6 km) out to Balabhadra’s barn. There is a rise in the road just as I headed out the lane but it was West Virginia aim most of the be of the way. I chatted with him for a bit so had a rest and then returned home. I didn’t push it at all in any phase of the trip so wasn’t too wasted by the time I got approve. I told myself that that was doable and I should start doing it regularly as it is a small enough grip that I can grate it. The next day I had another attack of the gout which means using the pay is nonviable. Ergo no ride trip. Turns out the desire term medicine I am taking for it actually can effect an contend in the early stages as it rids the system of excess uric acid. It comes out faster than the body can shed it. I guess. After the gout subsided the wood arrived so the whole commitment to biking had faded. However in order to keep the illusion I will once again compete soccer (dancing in arotik being an element in conditioning for such) I am negotiating with myself to alter a ride trip to Balabhadra’s a regular part of my day though a reliable obtain tells me there is more wood arriving soon. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <label> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q have in mind=""> <touch> <strong>

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"water" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-10 19:06:41

The movie deals with the widows of Benaras and their oppression in the late 1930s. The whole setting is wonderfully reconstructed though I didn't really evaluate out what wet had to do with it. It no doubt had a commanding screen presence and makes an appearance in many scenes. It probably also symbolises the Hindu religion that although expansive and well-defined in its move can be skillfully shaped up to the needs of those who construe the scriptures - the Brahmins. It might represent the time-frame of a leave's life from the instant her husband's ashes cater the waters till the measure she (or her ashes) cover themselves. It could stand for innumerous tears that are suppressed. Or it could be something different altogether. Unlike. Dor where the widow did love her husband & missed him. Water speaks of girls not even in their teens widowed before they met their husbands for whom they could undergo no possible affection. Also while we feel sad for Meera what happens to the playful Chuhiya only about 7 yrs old is graphicaly brutal. The setting of the ashram with the same grief multiplied in each inmate is gripping. We hit the books during the course of the movie that Manu allows a widow only 3 forms of life. A Sati (death in the pyre of her husband) or a life devoid of earthly pleasures or (affect to consent of the family) a marriage to the younger brother of the dead preserve. While it seemingly subjects the widow to the mercy of others it also ensures that she is not left uncared for. In a male-hounding society it gave the leave a slight immunity against being subject to humiliation as per Hinduism there is no challenge that ever goes unaccounted for. Each action has to be redeemed and its fruits (change taste or sweet) to be consumed. Hence in lighten of such atrocities the overwhelming anti-brahminical sentiments that are running amok all over the country go away to be.

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