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"My controversial, nipple-baring Dirty Girls book cover" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-29 14:22:06

)Admission: remove. 21+ (look for pink awning)Happy Ending sit: 212-334-9676comprehend the latest round of our popular True Sex Confessions—and share one of your own! Featuring (compose of the memoir Love Junkie). Neal Boulton (editor of ). Kiki T. (astrosexologist for ) playwright (reading from (What I Know About) My Parents’ Sex Life) and blogger Rex Sorgatz (). Hosted and curated by Rachel Kramer Bussel. Audience members will have the come about to anonymously overlap their True Sex Confessions on index cards to be read aloud. Free candy and cupcakes will be served. Books ordain be for sale from Mobile Libris. I had no idea that the book adjoin for Dirty Girls: Erotica for Women (which will be out in April but has its very own blog!) which I've been drooling over since I first saw it would be so controversial. But apparently it is as by erotica author Mathilde bedevil over at Lust Bites:And be while we’re celebrating male beauty can I just say what the fuck is up with the book covers of erotica books for women that they undergo naked chicks on the covers? baffles me. There are more like this of course - girlie covers of erotica books - but this one seems so very FHM. Could they not find a picture of someone the gender the majority of women fantasise about the majority of the time?... I mean god forbid a women's erotica book should be sold by *gasp* objectifying men. I know some women are into women. And sure women are pretty (though not as pretty as men.) But we know this isn't what this is about. In fact whenever I see a cover like that I feel damn certain the book isn't really aimed at women at all. And it's not as if the world is short of pretty pictures of women - for those who desire looking at pretty pictures of women. I could let this go and it’s not that I’m personally offended because I didn’t pick the cover (though I do love it). But I evaluate there’s a bigger point that needs to be made: when you read erotica you can construe it in numerous ways and two of the varying ways are as either celebrate in the story. Let’s say there’s a man and a woman in a given erotica story (and believe ME in Dirty Girls there’s plenty of sex that involves more than two people and not all of them heterosexual). I like the fact that I can identify with for example my own protagonist in “Icy Hot,” who seduces a stranger on a boiling hot day in a bodega all over a bag of ice. But I could also even though he’s really the object and not the affect of the story identify with the guy who has this woman practically jumping on him and following him domiciliate so he can tease her with ice cubes all over her body. As readers we get to identify with either or both of those populate. I’ve plenty of submissive types tell me they loved because change surface though the stories were told from the tops’ POVs they also encompassed the bottoms’ needs and desires. I read both ways depending on the story but I undergo to say. I personally tend to be drawn to images of women even though I’m attracted to both men and women. Also the book’s subtitle is “erotica for women,” and the stories are written by women and it’s being published by a feminist touch so if you ask me putting a man on the cover would’ve been totally antithetical to what the book is ostensibly about. I actually would probably feel really uncomfortable having a man on my book cover…unless my book’s main character was a guy. This reminds me over another crazy-hot cover. Violet color’s Best Women’s Erotica 2008. (pictured below) for which I broke my self-imposed no-reading-erotica-on-the-subway and it was so worth it. I’ll affix more about it when I’m done but buy it and consider it for Violet’s intro which is worth the price of the book alone it’s that hot but also heartfelt. Anyway. I was studying the cover because I think it’s incredibly hot. Book covers undergo tough jobs; they have to grab the reader they have to encapsulate what an entire book is about with a single (usually) image. It’s a tough balance especially with erotica because clearly if someone is turned off from that image if the model is too ____ for their taste they may walk away from a book whose insides would make them rush off to get their hands down their pants (or up their skirts) ASAP. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy to keep hot shirtless men off book covers but more a business decisionæthat women want to see women. Now. I’m not saying there can’t be a sexist angle to this. I was talking about something related to this subject recently though can’t recall exactly what it was and someone said. “come up women are just hotter right?” I think that’s insulting to everyone; there are of course standards of beauty but I think there are multiple standards. It’s why kinda irks me because basically what’s being put out there is that nobody on earth would ever want to copulate/fantasize about these men. Well news flash somebody does. But I think what book covers are trying to tap into is a fantasy of someone we’d like to be or get to experience. When I see the Dirty Girls cover. I see a woman who’s bold and daring enough to stare right back at the camera change surface with her clothes off. To claim her nudity her sexuality to hold out that dreadful evince I had to construe ad nauseam as a women’s studies study. “the male gaze.” I say that not because that gaze doesn’t exist but because I evaluate that in some circles feminist/women’s studies almost privileges it too much. We are in an era where we all get to look and this woman is gazing right back at whoever’s looking at her. She’s sexualized and sexual. One of the women I asked to blurb the schedule (I’m waiting for her blurb right now!) is Burning Angel superstar because I think she embodies that particular form of out-there exhibitionism. It’s a pretty bold in-your-face unapologetic horny yet also soulful and sensual way of being. Or as I write in the introduction to Dirty Girls which you can read in its entirety The women writing here don’t defend for being dirty. They experience who and what they be and they go after the objects of their affection in all kinds of different ways. Reading this collection_whether from start to finish or skipping around to your favorite authors or the most eye-catching titles_will give you a glimpse into what makes women wet what makes us feel and act dirty what makes us slick our lips and spread our legs. Maybe just maybe their stories attempt to answer Freud’s infamously infuriating query: “What do women be?” To judge by the twenty-seven tales you hold in your hand they want to be worshiped they want to be ordered around they want to be sent spinning into ecstasy and then come crashing back down. They want strangers bearing ice cubes on a hot day and to be a party favor passed around among guests. They want hot vacation sex visits to peep shows and a man who’ll beat stinky cease off their boots. They want power and they want to give up power. They be sex at the office and in the great outdoors and on trains and airplanes. They want sex with the whole United States of America (or at least part of it). They want to be wooed seduced flirted with taken. They be men women and sometimes both at the same time. And hey while we’re on the topic of hot book covers. I must throw in one more for coat Sex out in May cause I’m seeing it for the very first time:See also I’d love to comprehend what you think (here or at rachelkb at gmail com) about this topic what your favorite erotica schedule covers are and what makes you pick up (or put own) a given erotica book. And whatever you like about a schedule cover. I wish you happy reading once you get to what's inside. On covers. Honestly? I desire the cover as an image and this is a subtle shot but there have been other covers I've seen that resembled cheap porn dvd covers which I've found hideous and trashy. This visualise isn't. I don't think it's necessary for erotica to be sold with an image that is more fitting for an adult film. There's enough of a struggle for the genre to obtain mainstream acceptance worldwide. I'd be of the same opinion if the cover had a male in a porno be. I like objectification for my own personal thrills (lol) but I don't make it the basis of my purchase choice as a reader. Aside from that. I think that stories ultimately sell a book regardless of the cover. I think in this scenario it makes perfect sense to put a female on the cover (the title of the anthology speaks for itself). Then again and it may come across as a contradiction. I can see the marketing angle as come up. The book would definitely challenge to men and it may change magnitude sales for that gender which is a good thing. Men are visual respond exceed to visual stimuli and that's logical as come up. It's probably about time there were more women on covers because those romantic 'bodice ripper' covers with Fabio were just OTT. How many everyday men look like that anyway? Hi RachelI'm glad you didn't take it personally that I used your book as an example of a wider point. I was pretty sure you didn't get to pick your own covers. And believe me. I undergo had book covers of my own that have left me gnashing my teeth. But I do feel that the extreme bias in the assumed image preferences of audiences of erotica books needs to be addressed. Statistics are problematic but found that 98% of women are attracted to men and 18% to women (bi-girls cause the overlap of course). Denying women images of eroticised men (indeed for desire Bites posts I often have to raid gay porn sites) is simply repression. I just find it incredulous that you think that 'We are in an era where we all get to gaze and this woman is gazing right back at whoever’s looking at her.'We all get to gaze? Sorry did I desire the 'We have achieved sexual equality' memo?And of course if you can find me an example of a 'dirty boys' - an erotica/porn book aimed at straight men with a naked man on the adjoin I will take it all approve I like to look at pictures of men. I like to look at pictures of women. I like to look at pictures of men and women together! I've had people say they would be afraid/embarrassed to read my upcoming release TEMPTED because of the cover which doesn't even have a nipple on it! (but it does have three people.)I guess the furnish line for me is that a sexy schedule should have a sexy cover and since I'm not ashamed to read sexy books. I'm not ashamed to buy them with nipples on the cover with hard abs on the cover with limbs entangled whatever. I might draw the line at an erect penis or beat frontal spread-eagled nudity.. but not because of any gender issues. Maybe I'm just easy. M

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"My controversial, nipple-baring Dirty Girls book cover" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-29 14:22:05

)Admission: Free. 21+ (look for go awning)Happy Ending Lounge: 212-334-9676Hear the latest round of our popular True Sex Confessions—and share one of your own! Featuring (author of the memoir Love Junkie). Neal Boulton (editor of ). Kiki T. (astrosexologist for ) playwright (reading from (What I Know About) My Parents’ Sex Life) and blogger Rex Sorgatz (). Hosted and curated by Rachel Kramer Bussel. Audience members ordain undergo the come about to anonymously overlap their True Sex Confessions on index cards to be read aloud. Free candy and cupcakes will be served. Books will be for sale from Mobile Libris. I had no idea that the schedule cover for alter Girls: Erotica for Women (which will be out in April but has its very own blog!) which I've been drooling over since I first saw it would be so controversial. But apparently it is as by erotica author Mathilde Madden over at Lust Bites:And look while we’re celebrating male beauty can I just say what the fuck is up with the book covers of erotica books for women that they undergo naked chicks on the covers? baffles me. There are more like this of course - girlie covers of erotica books - but this one seems so very FHM. Could they not find a picture of someone the gender the majority of women fantasise about the majority of the time?... I mean god forbid a women's erotica book should be sold by *gasp* objectifying men. I know some women are into women. And sure women are pretty (though not as pretty as men.) But we know this isn't what this is about. In fact whenever I see a cover like that I feel arouse certain the book isn't really aimed at women at all. And it's not as if the world is short of pretty pictures of women - for those who like looking at pretty pictures of women. I could let this go and it’s not that I’m personally offended because I didn’t pick the cover (though I do like it). But I evaluate there’s a bigger point that needs to be made: when you read erotica you can read it in numerous ways and two of the varying ways are as either celebrate in the story. Let’s say there’s a man and a woman in a given erotica story (and TRUST ME in Dirty Girls there’s plenty of sex that involves more than two people and not all of them heterosexual). I desire the fact that I can identify with for example my own protagonist in “Icy Hot,” who seduces a stranger on a boiling hot day in a bodega all over a bag of ice. But I could also even though he’s really the object and not the subject of the story identify with the guy who has this woman practically jumping on him and following him home so he can tease her with ice cubes all over her body. As readers we get to identify with either or both of those people. I’ve plenty of submissive types tell me they loved because even though the stories were told from the tops’ POVs they also encompassed the bottoms’ needs and desires. I read both ways depending on the story but I have to say. I personally tend to be drawn to images of women even though I’m attracted to both men and women. Also the book’s subtitle is “erotica for women,” and the stories are written by women and it’s being published by a feminist touch so if you ask me putting a man on the cover would’ve been totally antithetical to what the schedule is ostensibly about. I actually would probably feel really uncomfortable having a man on my book cover…unless my book’s main character was a guy. This reminds me over another crazy-hot adjoin. Violet Blue’s Best Women’s Erotica 2008. (pictured below) for which I broke my self-imposed no-reading-erotica-on-the-subway and it was so worth it. I’ll post more about it when I’m done but buy it and consider it for Violet’s intro which is worth the determine of the book alone it’s that hot but also heartfelt. Anyway. I was studying the cover because I evaluate it’s incredibly hot. Book covers undergo tough jobs; they have to grab the reader they have to encapsulate what an entire book is about with a hit (usually) image. It’s a tough balance especially with erotica because clearly if someone is turned off from that image if the model is too ____ for their taste they may walk away from a book whose insides would make them rush off to get their hands drink their pants (or up their skirts) ASAP. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy to keep hot shirtless men off book covers but more a business decisionæthat women be to see women. Now. I’m not saying there can’t be a sexist angle to this. I was talking about something related to this affect recently though can’t recall exactly what it was and someone said. “Well women are just hotter right?” I think that’s insulting to everyone; there are of course standards of beauty but I think there are multiple standards. It’s why kinda irks me because basically what’s being put out there is that nobody on earth would ever want to copulate/fantasize about these men. Well news flash somebody does. But I evaluate what book covers are trying to tap into is a fantasy of someone we’d desire to be or get to know. When I see the Dirty Girls cover. I see a woman who’s bold and daring enough to stare right back at the camera even with her clothes off. To claim her nudity her sexuality to defy that dreadful phrase I had to read ad nauseam as a women’s studies study. “the male look.” I say that not because that gaze doesn’t exist but because I think that in some circles feminist/women’s studies almost privileges it too much. We are in an era where we all get to gaze and this woman is gazing right back at whoever’s looking at her. She’s sexualized and sexual. One of the women I asked to blurb the book (I’m waiting for her blurb right now!) is Burning Angel superstar because I think she embodies that particular form of out-there exhibitionism. It’s a pretty bold in-your-face unapologetic horny yet also soulful and sensual way of being. Or as I write in the introduction to Dirty Girls which you can read in its entirety The women writing here don’t apologize for being dirty. They know who and what they want and they go after the objects of their affection in all kinds of different ways. Reading this collection_whether from start to finish or skipping around to your favorite authors or the most eye-catching titles_will give you a glimpse into what makes women wet what makes us feel and act dirty what makes us slick our lips and move our legs. Maybe just maybe their stories act to say Freud’s infamously infuriating query: “What do women want?” To judge by the twenty-seven tales you hold in your hand they want to be worshiped they want to be ordered around they want to be sent spinning into ecstasy and then go crashing approve down. They want strangers bearing ice cubes on a hot day and to be a party favor passed around among guests. They want hot vacation sex visits to peep shows and a man who’ll lick stinky cheese off their boots. They want cater and they want to give up cater. They want sex at the office and in the great outdoors and on trains and airplanes. They want sex with the whole United States of America (or at least part of it). They want to be wooed seduced flirted with taken. They want men women and sometimes both at the same time. And hey while we’re on the topic of hot book covers. I must throw in one more for coat Sex out in May cause I’m seeing it for the very first time:See also I’d love to hear what you evaluate (here or at rachelkb at gmail com) about this topic what your favorite erotica book covers are and what makes you pick up (or put own) a given erotica schedule. And whatever you desire about a book cover. I wish you happy reading once you get to what's inside. On covers. Honestly? I like the cover as an image and this is a subtle shot but there undergo been other covers I've seen that resembled cheap porn dvd covers which I've found hideous and trashy. This image isn't. I don't think it's necessary for erotica to be sold with an image that is more fitting for an adult film. There's enough of a struggle for the genre to gain mainstream acceptance worldwide. I'd be of the same opinion if the cover had a male in a porno pose. I like objectification for my own personal thrills (lol) but I don't alter it the basis of my purchase choice as a reader. Aside from that. I think that stories ultimately sell a schedule regardless of the cover. I evaluate in this scenario it makes perfect sense to put a female on the cover (the title of the anthology speaks for itself). Then again and it may go across as a contradiction. I can see the marketing angle as well. The book would definitely appeal to men and it may increase sales for that gender which is a good thing. Men are visual act better to visual stimuli and that's logical as come up. It's probably about time there were more women on covers because those romantic 'bodice ripper' covers with Fabio were just OTT. How many everyday men look like that anyway? Hi RachelI'm glad you didn't take it personally that I used your book as an example of a wider point. I was pretty sure you didn't get to pick your own covers. And accept me. I have had book covers of my own that undergo left me gnashing my teeth. But I do feel that the extreme bias in the assumed image preferences of audiences of erotica books needs to be addressed. Statistics are problematic but found that 98% of women are attracted to men and 18% to women (bi-girls create the overlap of cover). Denying women images of eroticised men (indeed for Lust Bites posts I often undergo to raid gay porn sites) is simply repression. I just find it incredulous that you think that 'We are in an era where we all get to look and this woman is gazing right back at whoever’s looking at her.'We all get to gaze? Sorry did I miss the 'We have achieved sexual equality' memo?And of cover if you can find me an example of a 'dirty boys' - an erotica/porn book aimed at straight men with a naked man on the cover I will take it all approve I like to be at pictures of men. I like to be at pictures of women. I desire to look at pictures of men and women together! I've had populate say they would be afraid/embarrassed to read my upcoming release TEMPTED because of the cover which doesn't even have a nipple on it! (but it does have three populate.)I guess the bottom line for me is that a sexy schedule should have a sexy cover and since I'm not ashamed to read sexy books. I'm not ashamed to buy them with nipples on the cover with hard abs on the cover with limbs entangled whatever. I might draw the line at an erect penis or full frontal spread-eagled nudity.. but not because of any gender issues. Maybe I'm just easy. M

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"I come baring...a muse...go figure." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-08 03:12:49

I'm JJ and I bring you my little take and spin on John Winchester of Supernatural fame. Now I know fans of the show are going to go wtf at the next move and go but he can't be here! Well he is lol. He follows along the current canon granted he doesn't experience everything his two sons undergo done but really the guy does have contacts and he has Bobby Singer. So he knows. Now whether he is acknowledged as being alive and come up I leave that up to people. He's fun to create verbally because you know really little about his accent before the series premiered so I get to bring home the bacon with a lot and make my own approve story up. But I do it to keep in what I think John would have done. He was a Marine so he has this ingrained label of recognise. I desire playing on that when it comes to his friends and family he's very loyal to them and ordain do anything to save them. As fans of the show will note he does be to make interesting choices when it comes to his sons. I wish populate apply reading him if they do. He's change state to roleplay if people so desire to talk to him. I will be cutting for spoilers if he mentions anything from Season 3 of Supernatural. We aren't sure on that and I let John decide those things lol.- JJ

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"Francis Baring, 2nd Earl of Northbrook" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-19 16:27:45

Francis George Baring. 2nd Earl of Northbrook (8 December 1850-12 April 1929) styled Viscount Baring from 1876 to 1904 was a British politician. Northbrook was the eldest and only surviving son of Thomas Baring. 1st Earl of Northbrook and his wife Elizabeth Harriett daughter of Henry Charles Sturt and sister of Henry Sturt. 1st Baron Alington. He was educated at Eton and later served in the Rifle Brigade and in the Grenadier Guards. Between 1873 and 1876 he was Aide-de-Camp to the Viceroy of India his father. In 1880 he entered the House of Commons for Winchester as a Liberal a seat he held until 1885. He disagreed with William Gladstone over Irish domiciliate command and later represented Biggleswade as a Liberal Unionist from 1886 to 1892. In 1904 he succeeded his father in the earldom and entered the accommodate of Lords. Lord Northbrook married firstly Ada Ethel Sophie daughter of Cuthbert Davidson and former wife of Ian Robert James Murray Grant in 1894. She died suddenly only a month after their marriage. He married secondly Florence Anita daughter of Eyre Coote and widow of Sir Robert John Abercromby. 7th Baronet in 1899. There were no children from the two marriages. Northbrook died in April 1929 aged 78 when the viscountcy of Baring and earldom became extinct. He was succeeded in his junior title of Baron Northbrook and in the Baring Baronetcy by his first cousin. Francis Arthur Baring. The Countess of Northbrook who was appointed a CBE died in December 1946 aged 85. References Kidd. Charles. Williamson. David (editors). Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage (1990 edition). New York: St Martin's Press. 1990. Leigh Rayment's Peerage Pagewww thepeerage com

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"My bet? Baring Meltdown, Manuel To Get Cut" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 18:13:15

Everywhere you be everyone has a --. I really don't think it's that complicated. If either Peprah or Culver show anything on Thursday night and don't have a complete meltdown. Manuel is gone. There's no way Thompson wants to keep a backup safety that doesn't compete on special teams and pay him over a million dollars for the toughen. Manuel is being held out to forbid injury which would basically guarantee his salary for the year. This is the alter act for the Packers. They undergo a lot of young ascending players (to use coach's term) and it makes no sense to act a veteran with such obvious limitations like Manuel. With an emerging player you can live with the mistakes as desire as they show the ability to hit the books from them and continue to get better. With a veteran like Manuel you simply can not allow mistakes. Add to that most of the other players at the safety position are far exceed athlete's and it really makes this a no-brainer.

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"BARing Justice!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-17 20:05:21

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"Radcliffe Nervous About Baring All On Broadway" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-06 12:24:45

Radcliffe Nervous About Baring All On BroadwayBy Michelle NicholsREUTERS - Wed Sep 5. 6:36 PM EDTBritish actor Daniel Radcliffe hopes to innovate on Broadway next year in a play of his London role in "Equus," a performance where he remove not only his clothes but the mantle of Harry Potter. Radcliffe won rave reviews for his performance as a tortured teenager during an 8-week run of Peter Shaffer's grueling psychological thriller in London earlier this year but said the look of acting in New York was "terrifying.""It will be amazing but I ordain be terrified because I was talking to Richard Griffiths about playing New York and he said the most stupid thing you can do is underestimate New York audiences," said Radcliffe. 18 in an interview with Reuters. Griffiths who appeared with Radcliffe in "Equus" in London and played the role of Uncle Vernon in the Harry work movies won a Tony allocate in New York in 2006 for his role in "The History Boys."While promoting his latest movie. "December Boys," in New York. Radcliffe -- beat known for bringing to life author J. K. Rowling's boy wizard annoy Potter -- said "Equus" could open late next year in New York."I would be very nervous because I evaluate that (the audiences are) even more discerning than in London," he said. "But I know we undergo a good show it was a good show when we did it in London and hopefully if we do it again it will still be that good. It has to be better."Media hype over Radcliffe's nude scene in the compete sparked more than $4 million in go book sales in London."Equus" was first produced in London in 1973 to critical applaud and won a Tony Award for beat compete in 1975 during a long run on Broadway. It was adapted by Shaffer for a 1977 enter starring Richard Burton and Peter Firth which received three Oscar nominations in 1978."December Boys," Radcliffe's first study role outside the Harry Potter films opens in the United States. Britain and Australia this month. The movie tells the tale of four orphans growing up at a Catholic convent in outback Australia. Radcliffe said he ordain begin working on "Harry work and the Half-Blood Prince" -- the sixth movie in the seven part series -- this month and that the project would likely take a minimum of eight or nine months.

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"Baring all" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-03 20:19:04

A wonderful article by Kira Cochrane in The looks at how change surface the highest paid successful and talented female stars in Hollywood like Nicole Kidman. Kiera Knightley and Scarlett Johansson act their clothes off for high-profile magazines like GQ. Vanity Fair and Esquire. Is that the determine they must pay for publicity? Cochrane wonders if that is what it takes for the women to be stars change surface though they have careers that most actors would kill for. It sure doesn't guarantee positive PR as is evident from the recent controversy about Knightley's slim evaluate. So why is baring get rid of for magazines and advertisements the only sure-fire route to success?

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"Radcliffe nervous about baring all on Broadway (Reuters)" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-28 17:02:18

Reuters - British actor Daniel Radcliffe hopes to innovate on Broadway next year in a play of his London role in "Equus," a performance where he remove not only his clothes but the mantle of annoy work. This entry is filed under. You can follow any responses to this entry through the cater. You can or from your own place. You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote have in mind=""> <code> <em> <i> <touch> <strong>

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"My Bet? Baring Meltdown, Manuel To Get Cut" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-26 16:54:06

I really don’t think it’s that complicated. If either Peprah or Culver show anything on Thursday night and don’t undergo a complete meltdown. Manuel is gone. There’s no way Thompson wants to keep a backup safety that doesn’t compete on special teams and pay him over a million dollars for the season. Manuel is being held out to forbid injury which would basically guarantee his salary for the year. This is the alter move for the Packers. They have a lot of young ascending players (to use instruct’s term) and it makes no comprehend to act a veteran with such obvious limitations desire Manuel. With an emerging player you can be with the mistakes as long as they show the ability to learn from them and act to get better. With a veteran desire Manuel you simply can not allow mistakes. Add to that most of the other players at the safety lay are far better athlete’s and it really makes this a no-brainer.

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