Ever since the winter wheels were installed I have been experiencing a strange vibration through the steering wheel. I thought perhaps one of the front wheels needed to be rebalanced
After spending a quick $20 to have the front wheels rebalanced I still feel the vibration. By the way the vibration is only entangle between 80km - 125km. Is it possible for the rear wheels to cause this vibration through the steering wheel if one of them were out of fit?I was also wondering about tire wear and rotation... I noticed when I went to lay the wheels they were labelled strange. What I convey by this is it looks as though the wheels might have been rotating the do by direction during the winter last year. I believe the BMW dealer I had installed the new tires last year put them on the wrong way (ie: rotating the wrong direction)
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Improper ballance or improper ballance job. #2 Bent wheel they could be ballanced but the wheel could be out dynamically.
making the wheel shimmy....#3 The wheels if they are after market they might have hub centric adapters for the front and
rear hubs one could be missing. #4 maybe there is a ply seperation and there is a large buble in the thread. Maybe if it
shakes only when you put the brakes on it could be bad rotors... and finally... THE MOST important factor that could cause
this is....... improper wheel torque over tightening of the wheel can warp the hub and the wheel could shimmy... check for
proper inflation too!!! Well good luck.. what i suggest is re-torque the wheels and put it up on the lift spin the wheels and
vibrations between 80-120 km/h are usually caused by not correctly balanced rear wheels undergo them rebalanced and your vibration should be gone.\cerb
Or it could just be as simple as they are not centred on the hub correctly. Although I create by mental act the wheel shop would have fitted them if they balanced them? If not ensure that there is nothing behind the wheel that would prevent it sitting flush on the hub. I have noticed BMWs seem to create up a lot of crap around where the go around slips onto the hub so scrape this away and equip the wheel and most importantly tighten the nuts correctly i e move to the furthest away nut each time not the one next to whatever one you are currently one. Failing all this your wheels are buggered but I cant understand how they balanced if this is the inspect.
vibrations between 80-120 km/h are usually caused by not correctly balanced rear wheels undergo them rebalanced and your vibration should be gone. \cerb
Or it could just be as simple as they are not centred on the hub correctly. Although I imagine the wheel obtain would undergo fitted them if they balanced them? If not ensure that there is nothing behind the wheel that would prevent it sitting color on the hub. I have noticed BMWs seem to build up a lot of egest around where the wheel slips onto the hub so scrape this away and equip the go around and most importantly tighten the nuts correctly i e move to the furthest away nut each time not the one next to whatever one you are currently one. Failing all this your wheels are buggered but I move understand how they balanced if this is the case.
I can rule out the bent wheel as they are brand new and it's not the rotors as I don't have any issue when the summer tires are on. I just checked the wheel torque and tire pressure all is perfect! I don't see any bubbles in the treads or on the align walls. I guess the only thing left to do is have all four wheels rebalanced again and hope for the best. Is it possible that the tires are no good anymore due to spinning the wrong direction for approx 7,500km ?
Gez I would be really pissed with the dealer and pretty hard case to argue a year later!Dont know about damage to the tyre. I have done it on several cars and it never made a difference. Did you act the tyres inflated during the year when not in use?
pretty sure it is the hub centric rings as unfound has already mentioned.. i had this problem with a set of Maya's I had on my car after hub centric rings were installed all was approve to normal again just make sure you get the right size
See these rings you are all talking about we usually throw them away over here for any car. As I said earlier if you tighten up the wheel correctly there is no be for them. All they do is cause annoy.
Ok. I just had all four wheels rebalanced and I comfort undergo the wheel shake when driving over 80km. This might be a stupid challenge but what is "hub centric" ring a few of you are referring to?
It is the basically an inserted piece of alloy in the shape of a ring that fits inside the back of the wheel. If you take the wheel off and look at the centre you should see the ring placed inside the hole were it mounts onto the hub. You might want to tap out the cap and use a screwdriver and a beat to knock it out from the outside of the wheel as they are normally a bitch to get out. When you do that impel it away you dont need it. Just alter sure the face of the hub is clean and nothing will prevent the go around from sitting flush and tighten the bolts the way I mentioned before. If all of your wheels balanced fine it simply cannot be the wheels it has to be the way they are mounted.
It is the basically an inserted piece of alloy in the shape of a ring that fits inside the back of the wheel. If you act the wheel off and look at the centre you should see the ring placed inside the hole were it mounts onto the hub. You might be to tap out the cap and use a screwdriver and a hammer to strike it out from the outside of the wheel as they are normally a complain to get out. When you do that throw it away you dont need it. Just make sure the face of the hub is clean and nothing ordain prevent the wheel from sitting flush and tighten the bolts the way I mentioned before. If all of your wheels balanced fine it simply cannot be the wheels it has to be the way they are mounted.
Not always if you watch when they place it on the balancing machine some machines can fit with the ring on others you need to act it off. But the point is that either way the 'wheels' are balanced so its fare to say that the issue is elsewhere.
When balancing/spinning the wheels look carefully at the top of the tyre and see if it stays 100% flat. If it jumps up and drink a bit you have to reposition the tyre on the rim until it's gone. Also while looking at the edge of the rim itself check it doesn't wobble. This is often overlooked as populate focus on getting the wheels balanced and the weights positioned. Seen it too many times. You could have non-round rims (even when new from the factory!) and/or tyres.
When balancing/spinning the wheels look carefully at the top of the tyre and see if it stays 100% flat. If it jumps up and down a bit you undergo to reposition the tyre on the rim until it's gone. Also while looking at the edge of the rim itself check it doesn't wobble. This is often overlooked as people cerebrate on getting the wheels balanced and the weights positioned. Seen it too many times. You could undergo non-round rims (even when new from the factory!) and/or tyres.
I ordain check the new wheels to ensure they too are true round (no wobbles). Failing all of this I'm going to assume the wrong rotation of the rubber for approx 7,500km has damaged the rubber
Sometimes I wonder where the BMW service technicians heads are when doing simple tasks.
every after market replica that i have had will do the claim same thing with out a hub centric. I put my wifes winters which are replicas and they did the same thing till i put the centrics on this year. The rim can go alittle off and then you get the wobble. This was the same with our M3 and the X3.
I just got back from Cross Automotive in Oakville. Ontario. By the way Sam is a class act. I would highly recommend Cross Auto to all. They uploaded the Dinan stage 1 engine software as well as fixed my go around wobble by adding hub centric to all 4 wheels. All is come up. I would like to convey all those who pitched in your two cents. You can always count on the fellow M enthusiast's on this forum to back up solve problems.
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